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downstream from Gravelly Ford, you would have to put in two. It 

 is a 50 percent loss. 



To get water from Mendota Pool all the way down to the con- 

 fluence of the Merced where you would have to have another — I 

 think that is another 50 miles — 45 miles — something like that — 

 from the pool to the confluence of the Merced, you are talking 

 about considerably more water — rewetting a channel that hasn't 

 been run on a regular basis for 40 years. The losses would be con- 

 siderable; again, something probably in excess of two to one. 



So anytime, you know, you figure out what you need for salmon 

 just in terms of flow, you have got to double that in terms of what 

 you have to take out of the Friant supply. 



Mr. Radanovich. All right. Thank you. Also to comment I think 

 on the mere consideration of the study created a lot of uncertainty 

 and affected land values and also the ability of the farmers to get 

 loans. Just due to the fact that it was being studied created condi- 

 tions that were unreasonable, unprudent, and unfeasible in the 

 San Joaquin Valley is the point I wanted to make. 



Mr. Moss. Yes. That is clearly the case. Not only the San Joa- 

 quin River study but the overall controversy surrounding the re- 

 newal of contracts. There clearly has been a situation where buyers 

 have stopped. I have talked to brokers where they said they were 

 in the middle of deals; the stuff came up; controversy surrounding 

 whether they would have continued available water supply and 

 what the terms and conditions of those contracts would be, and the 

 deal stopped. It clearly has affected land values throughout the 

 Central Valley. 



Mr. Radanovich. All right. Thank you very much. Mr. Graff, I 

 have got a question with regards to any possible input that you 

 may have had during this CVPRA process. Were you indeed invited 

 to participate in this, and did you feel as though you were shut out 

 of the process of CVPRA? Or did you choose not to participate in 

 the process, and, quite specifically, were you asked to participate? 



Mr. Graff. I think the fair answer to your latter question is yes, 

 although the process was pretty well launched by the time Jason 

 Peltier and Dan Nelson, in particular, came and paid a visit, I 

 think, on me and a few other environmental representatives. 



Mr. Radanovich. OK. Thank you. I think my final question 

 would be do you think that there has been an improvement or 

 maybe a raising of consciousness of those people that use resources 

 for farming and such over the last 20 years? Has there been an in- 

 creased awareness on say perhaps of Dick Moss's part over 20 

 years? 



Mr. Graff. It has come with some 



Mr. Radanovich. Hard work? 



Mr. Graff [continuing], hard work, yes. I would answer yes. 



Mr. Radanovich. OK. Thank you. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. OK. Mr. Dooley is recognized. 



Mr. Dooley. Thank you. Mr. Graff, on the Bay-Delta Accord, was 

 EDF in agreement with that and supportive of that? 



Mr. Graff. Yes. 



Mr. Dooley. And were you also supportive then of the provisions 

 that relate to the disposition of the 800,000 acre feet? 



