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Dr. Brown. Yes. 



Mr. Anfuso. What is your answer to that ? 



Dr. Brown. This is one area where my committee differs with the 

 National Science Foundation, for example, in that we believe that 

 there should be some provision made in the budgeting of fellowships 

 and scholarships to take into account the fact that we are always 

 going to be coming up against the areas of scientific and technological 

 endeavor where there are shortages, and where some kind of a com- 

 pensation has to be made. 



Now, I believe that the philosophy of the National Science Founda- 

 tion, broadly speaking, is correct, that most of the money should be 

 for scholarships, which should be purely on a competitive basis with- 

 out any reference to the field of endeavor. 



But a small fraction of it, I believe, should go into specialized areas 

 where it is widely recognized that there is a crisis, an emergency ? and 

 where, by putting that money there, one can catalyze educational 

 activity in that area. 



Mr. Anfuso. Do your personal views differ from that ? 



Dr. Brown. My personal views agree with that entirely. 



Mr. Anfuso. All right. 



Thank you. 



Now, I am going to ask our distinguished citizen and Congressman 

 from California, who, incidentally, is an authority on this subject, and 

 he himself is chairman of the Subcommittee on Oceanography at- 

 tached to one of our great standing committees of the House, and he 

 has done an awful lot of work and probably dedicated the major part 

 of his life in this study, and I'm going to ask him if he has some ques- 

 tions to ask our distinguished citizen from California. 



Mr. Miller. I am always happy to see Dr. Brown, and Doctor, 

 please disregard that statement from the Congressman. 



Mr. Anfuso. I mean it now ; don't take anything away. 



Mr. Miller. I am not an authority on anything. You can't be an 

 authority in this field unless you devote your life to it. 



I am very much interested. Of course, the Committee on Mer- 

 chant Marine and Fisheries and the Subcommittee on Oceanography 

 are interested in this field, and I think you realize we have held ex- 

 tensive hearings. 



We have plans for further hearings. 



Now, as far as the current bill is concerned, we would like to es- 

 tablish in the Academy of Sciences a branch of oceanography, and 

 I assume all other agencies would forgo their activities in this field. 



Has your committee ever studied this ? 



Dr. Brown. I'm sorry, Mr. Miller. 



Mr. Miller. Has the National Academy of Sciences' Committee on 

 Oceanography — has it ever given any study to this bill ? 



Dr. Brown. To H.R. 6298 ? 



Mr. Miller. Officially to the bill ? 



Dr. Brown. The National Academy of Sciences has a policy of 

 giving advice when asked for it. 



Mr. Miller. They haven't been asked ? 



Dr. Brown. Our committee has not been asked specifically for ad- 

 vice on this particular bill ; no. 



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