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quests of the several departments and agencies cooperating in this 

 program. 



An analysis shows us that oceanography is being emphasized and 

 that our national effort in this field is being expanded considerably. 

 I suggest that oceanography has a high probability of providing us 

 with a greater return on our investment than some of the programs 

 of equal magnitude which are currently more fashionable. 



It has been said that, like the subject "Atoms for Peace," we can 

 use the oceans for peace. We must have leadership on the oceans 

 in the face of the threat of war and equally we must have leadership 

 on the oceans in our hopes and our work toward peace. 



Thank you, sir. 



The Chairman. A very excellent statement, Mr. Secretary. 



I notice especially your approach to the problem and to this com- 

 mittee. I notice also you refer to the Interagency Committee and to 

 its financial needs in the future. 



You refer to personnel being a very critical problem, especially 

 scientific personnel, and it so happens that the bill under which you 

 are testifying today refers to that. 



Did you place in the record a list of the universities, colleges and 

 institutions which are doing this training work throughout the 

 country ? 



Dr. Wakelin. I have it here, if you would like me to place it in 

 the record, Mr. Chairman. 



The Chairman. Is it a short list? Would you read it then, and 

 read it into the record ? 



Dr. Wakelin. All right. 



The institutions which submitted the data which you have just re- 

 quested, Mr. Chairman, include the following : 



Columbia University, Johns Hopkins University, Oregon State Col- 

 lege, Texas A. & M., University of Miami, University of Rhode Island, 

 University of Southern California, University of Michigan, Scripps 

 Institution of Oceanography, and the Woods Hole Oceanographic 

 Institution. 



The Chairman. I wasn't here yesterday and I am not up to date on 

 what was said yesterday, therefore, I am going to recognize my col- 

 league, Mr. Miller. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Secretary, I have no questions, but you mentioned 

 Scripps Institution of Oceanography. I believe the record should 

 show this is a part of the University of California. 



Dr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Miller. It is a branch of the university. 



Dr. Wakelin. Yes. 



Mr. Miller. Woods Hole is an independent institution. 



Dr. Wakelin. Yes, it is. 



Mr. Miller. But Scripps is a part of the university. 



Of course, Mr. Secretary, I have been through hearings of this kind 

 before on another committee that is interested in this field, but I am 

 interested in some of the things that you said. 



Early in your statement you said the harvesting of the abundant 

 foods, minerals and chemicals, were part of the work you are in- 

 terested in. 



This implies, I believe, biology. 



Dr. Wakelin. Yes ; it does. 



