52 FRONTIERS IN OCEANIC RESEARCH 



Mr. Miller. I am not a biologist, but every once in a while there 

 showed up on the west coast of South America a species of fish par- 

 ticularly common to the east coast and people wondered how they got 

 there. Now we are beginning to see they got into the current. 



Dr. Wakelin. Yes. 



Mr. Miller. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. 



Dr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Miller. I want to congratulate you on a very forceful state- 

 ment. I am familiar with the work of the Interagency Committee. 

 I should tell the Chairman for the bill he is considering now, I have 

 been on another committee trying to do the same thing; the reports 

 were very unfavorable. I notice we haven't any reports in this bill, 

 so this may interest you in passing. 



Dr. Wakelin. Thank you. 



The Chairman. Mr. Fulton. 



Dr. Wakelin. Mr. Chairman, may I put in one remark? 



The Chairman. Surely. 



Dr. Wakelin. I believe in regard to the questions you asked me 

 about the submarines, I can answer them privately for the committee 

 at your convenience. 



The Chairman. All right. 



Dr. Wakelin. It is a question of military security. 



The Chairman. Before you leave perhaps we will have an oppor- 

 tunity to go in for an executive session for a moment. 



Dr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



The Chairman. Mr. Fulton. 



Mr. Fulton. I would like to have a comparsion put in the record 

 between the proposals of the National Academy of Sciences and their 

 budget for the next 10 years, as distinguished from proposals of the 

 Interagency Committee, so that we can see what the differences are, 

 and what the difference in cost is. 



Secondly, I would like to have put in a comparison between our pro- 

 gram projected and what we know has been done in the past few years 

 of the Soviet program and then a projection of the probability of what 

 they will be doing based on the present gradient they have established. 

 That is all. 



