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We're certainly not concerned about their being there and leaving 

 without leaving things there, are we? 



Ms. Fuller. Well, we want to make sure that any tourists who 

 are there are following the same standards that the scientific com- 

 munity is. And really the quite remarkable record that has been 

 achieved through the National Science Foundation program and 

 others of recycling, the experience Mrs. Morella described is a pret- 

 ty amazing one, and it would be terrific if we could replicate that 

 even more broadly in other parts of the world. 



Dr. RuTFORD. Let me just comment. Back in 1990 or '91, because 

 I was an outspoken critic of tourism in Antarctic, I actually went 

 on a tour ship as a guide, a science person. And I came back after 

 21 days in sub- Antarctic and the Antarctic Peninsula with a very 

 changed attitude towards tourism in the Antarctic. 



On the particular ship that I was on, there was a great deal of 

 attention paid to environmental matters. As a matter of fact, one 

 of my fellow guides on the cruise ship would be certainly a rep- 

 resentative of the environmental community at that time. 



And so the sensitivity of at least that tour ship was very keen 

 and you know, there were sweepers that came along behind and 

 picked up any rolls of film or anything that people left behind. 



But it's a cumulative impact, number one, that I think we all 

 worry about, and that is that there's a tendency to always visit the 

 same spot by the cruise ships. 



And so maybe A just does a little bit, but by the time you go A 

 through Z, then you may have a cumulative impact that is irrevers- 

 ible. 



Secondly, from the scientists' standpoint, I think we all live kind 

 of holding our breath, waiting for something to happen that will 

 take the logistic support away from science to rescue Joe Smith 

 who fell down a crevasse or somebody who did something, a tourist 

 group or whatever who did something dumb. 



And that impacts on science and we worry about that because 

 the helicopter that was supposed to take us into the field today is 

 now diverted to go pick somebody off the mountain who shouldn't 

 have been there in the first place. So that's, I think from the sci- 

 entific standpoint, that concerns us greatly. 



Mr. Bartlett. Thank you. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



The Chairman. Mr. Roemer? 



Mr. Roemer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I too would like to join in the praise to you and to Mr. Brown 

 for working together in a truly bipartisan way and coming up with 

 an extraordinary bill that has unified all the environmental com- 

 munity and we have not heard a bad word about this bill from any- 

 body testifying. 



So this is truly the kind of bipartisanship that I think the Amer- 

 ican people want to see to address some of the very difficult prob- 

 lems we have in this country and in dealing with scientific prob- 

 lems in other parts of the world. 



Let me ask just a couple of very basic questions. 



One, Ms. Fuller, there was testimony in a previous hearing about 

 maybe an inadvertent effect of banning disposable batteries and 

 that impact on weather balloons. 



