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we meant, but it is a matter of public record now and I think the 

 amount of volume involved is minuscule in the big picture. It is 

 very small compared to the commitments the administration made 

 in Option 9, and to say that it is preventing implementation of Op- 

 tion 9 is just not right. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. I suppose that when President Clinton said in 

 1993 with regards to these sales, by preserving the forests and set- 

 ting predictable and sustainable levels of timber sales, it protects 

 jobs not just in the short term but for years to come, I suppose he 

 could look at you and say, that is what we said but that is not 

 what we meant, because that is not what they are doing, is it, Mr. 

 Geisinger? 



Mr. Geisinger. No, it is not. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. I wanted to ask Mr. Mayr, your story is so 

 compelling, your grandfather, and your father and uncle who bor- 

 rowed a horse and borrowed some oats and as teenage boys started 

 a logging business. I have heard that story from several different 

 people who started logging companies. I am very, very sorry that 

 this has happened to you. You know, out of Aberdeen, Washington, 

 was an opinion about what has happened to you and the fact that 

 the administration has broken its word. 



They said in this editorial or in this opinion, "Mayr Brothers, 

 whose resilience and ingenuity have been beacons of hope for Grays 

 Harbor, announced Friday that it will lay off its 170 employees 

 over the next two months." You know, the most important thing 

 that I feel that as Congressmen we must continue to do is point 

 these industry people in a direction where there is hope, but it is 

 very difficult when we have an administration who does not even 

 bat an eye or blink when they say one thing and do another. 



Mr. Mayr, I just hope, I very much hope that we will be able to 

 see that hope and resilience for Grays Harbor restored again. Has 

 Senator Gorton's and Senator Hatfield's compromise plan been of 

 any benefit to you, either in the past or do you see it as a benefit 

 in the future? 



Mr. Mayr. Thank you for your kind words, Congresswoman. I 

 hope, too, that we will come through this. As I say, we have had 

 our ups and downs over the years. 



Both Senator Gorton and Senator Hatfield had some language to 

 give the administration more leeway in settling these timber sales. 

 That language was stricken from the earlier bill. I am hoping 

 something can be done before the end of September that will allow 

 us the damages from these sales, and they have been very helpful. 

 Nothing, of course, has been passed yet. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Thank you, Mr. Mayr. Thank you, Mr. Chair- 

 man. 



Mr. COOLEY. Thank you, Mrs. Chenoweth. 



Mrs. Smith? 



Mrs. Smith of Washington. I guess I will just carry on from 

 there, Tom. I want to make sure I understand. You think the clos- 

 est we can get on a bill is an appropriation coming up in Septem- 

 ber. It is still going to be real difficult. It is possible, and we will 

 walk you over to Slade's office and work on it, but your attorneys 

 say the Forest Service has the authority for this trade and they are 



