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Mr. Thomas. I have not seen that. 



Mr. Hansen. You have not seen that? 



Mr. Thomas. I have not seen that. 



Mr. Hansen. Will there be a reanalysis of this stuff at all? 



Mr. Thomas. Yes, sir. There is a continuing rolling reanalysis. 

 We are continuing to spend money both on monitoring and on re- 

 search on spotted owls and we constantly consider new informa- 

 tion. However, I would also point out to you that by the time we 

 got through with Option 9, the question was a far larger question 

 than spotted owls. It was a question of the old growth system and 

 a number of — hundreds of other species associated with the system. 



Mr. Hansen. My time is more than up. 



Mr. Secretary, the President's plan that I referred to, if you could 

 get me that information, I would be grateful. 



Mr. Lyons. I actually have that, Mr. Chairman, if I could just 

 read it for you. 



Mr. Hansen. Sure. 



Mr. Lyons. In fiscal year 1995, we planned to offer 458 million 

 board feet. That includes the PSQ offer as well as the, what we call 

 other wood. The actual offer was 493 million board feet. We sold 

 387, and 437 million board feet were harvested. In 1996, the total 

 offer is 610. I do not have the 1997 figure here. 



So the figures for 1995 would indicate we offered 493, sold 387 

 million board feet, and 437 million board feet were harvested. 

 Those are the most recent figures. 



Mr. Hansen. I see. Thank you very much for your testimony. 



Mr. Vento? 



Mr. Vento. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. 



When you talk about the numbers, Mr. Secretary, we are not just 

 talking about Region 9. We are talking nationwide on the salvage 

 numbers? Those are only salvage numbers? Is this just Region 9? 



Mr. Lyons. Those are the forest plan numbers. I am sorry. We 

 keep jumping back and forth between forest plan and salvage sale 

 program. 



Mr. Vento. Yes, I noticed that. In addition to this, then, there 

 may have been more salvage that is harvested, or did the 50 mil- 

 lion board feet that you are talking about — what was the salvage 

 for Region 9, then? Or Region 6, pardon me? 



Mr. Lyons. For Region 6? I do not have the actual salvage offer 

 for Region 6 with me, Mr. Vento. 



Mr. Vento. That has been the concern, because I think Region 

 6, that is really what has driven the salvage. It is pretty obvious 

 and evident from those that are in the forefront of this particular 

 issue that it is a Region 6 issue. So I just think that the issue here 

 is the forest plan. Obviously, we are talking about that today. You 

 are also talking about, in conjunction with that, forest salvage. 

 This does not include 318, then, either, does it? 



Mr. Lyons. This reflects the actual offers on the west side, or the 

 Cascades, of course, in Oregon, Washington, and Northern Califor- 

 nia. 



Mr. Vento. But these are new offers, new sales. 



Mr. Lyons. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Vento. So they do not reflect 318. 



Mr. Lyons. No, they do not. 



