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identifies where I was in the field or where the grain closest to me 

 was located. 



The fact is I was guilty because I was out there somewhere, and 

 I was "in the field," and in the field, you are guilty. I contacted Len 

 Register, one of the three attorneys who helped prosecute serial 

 killer Ted Bundy and send him to the electric chair. He reviewed 

 my case, and he said Bill, this law says you are supposed to know 

 the condition of the field for 10 consecutive days. I work four coun- 

 ties away. The field is 600 acres. I admit we only hunted in 200. 



He said the only thing you can do is pay the fine, because if you 

 go to court, they are going to charge you more. He said you are 

 guilty under this law, period. He said take your time and focus on 

 the people who write the laws so maybe they can make a law that 

 is a little more practical to comply with. 



I would like to say this too: the agents were very polite with me. 

 And one fellow told me, he said you should not feel bad about this, 

 Mr. Boe, because we give citations like this to judges, lawyers and 

 congressmen. And I would like to leave you with this thought: I 

 would not feel good going up in front of a firing squad because the 

 person they killed first was a congressman and then a judge before 

 they got to me, and that is basically what that gentleman was tell- 

 ing me out there. 



The Chairman. You had that in great order: congressman first 

 and then the judge and you. 



Mr. Boe. Whatever. You folks make the laws, and if you cannot 

 identify it, and if the 



The Chairman. Well, again, this law was not a law made by 

 Congress. This law was made by treaty, the Migratory Bird Treaty, 

 and the regulations were implemented by the Fish and Wildlife 

 Service. This is not the first time we have had bills introduced 

 1962, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1973, 1975, and 1977, and we have never 

 done anything about this law. This is not the first time this has 

 happened. You are absolutely right. One of my best friends — he is 

 deceased now — was arrested over a baited field. And he was a con- 

 gressman, by the way. 



I would like to ask John: what was your background? Is it my 

 understanding you were a game warden? 



Mr. Pelham. Yes, sir; that is correct. I am a former wildlife offi- 

 cer, so I have been on both sides of the fence. 



The Chairman. For Fish and Wildlife or for 



Mr. Pelham. No, for Florida Game and Freshwater Fish. 



The Chairman. That is what I wanted to ask you. Is it cus- 

 tomary, or is there a working relationship between the State fish 

 and wildlife and the Fish and Wildlife of the Federal Government? 



Mr. Pelham. There was at one time; I do not believe that exists 

 at least favorably. I am not in law enforcement now, but I know 

 at one time, we worked hand-in-hand in working migratory birds, 

 whatever it may have been. And it was a very, very amicable 



The Chairman. About what time did that breakdown occur? 



Mr. Pelham. I cannot say, sir. I got out of the Game and Fish 

 Commission in 1975, and it was in effect then. In fact, I had a card 

 that they had given me authorizing me like I was a special agent 

 or something, which they commonly did to the wildlife officers in 

 Florida. 



