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that it was one of those hberal acts that came out of a previous 

 Congress. 



Mr. Miller. Signed by a President 



The Chairman. That is true, the President. But it came out of 

 Congress; I just want to make sure. 



Mr. Miller. I cannot remember who it was. 



The Chairman. Yes; but he cannot either right now. 



Mr. Miller. Right. 



The Chairman. But that was the same time that they put the 

 $5,000 in automatically, and I do not think we ever intended to do 

 that. It was $500 instead of $5,000. 



Mr. Miller? Excuse me; the gentlelady from 



Mr. Miller. Excuse me, yes. 



The Chairman. Yes; the gentlelady from Idaho. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Thank you, gentleman from Alaska; I appre- 

 ciate that, Mr. Chairman. 



This is a very interesting set of circumstances, and. Senator, I 

 just do not want you to be discouraged being a politician. The only 

 intent you had was to raise money for a very worthy cause, and 

 I appreciate you for that, and I appreciate the grief that you have 

 had to go through. And having gone through campaigns myself, I 

 know how touchy these things can be. So, thank you very much. 



Tell me. Senator, did anyone ever inquire as to where the infor- 

 mation came as to how the grain got to the surface of the land? 

 Was it only from high-flying aircraft that had flown the field from 

 several days before, or were there other methods by which they say 

 they determined there was grain in the field? 



Mr. Williams. I really do not know that, and I did not personally 

 talk to any of the agents. I was about a mile away at the barn 

 when the raid took place. And I wanted to go back out and talk 

 to them. Some of my supporters said no, they may arrest you for 

 trying to interfere with the duties of an officer. Aiid so, I yielded 

 to that advice and did not go back out. So, I cannot tell you really 

 exactly. Maybe some of the gentlemen who actually talked to some 

 of the agents could better answer that. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Sheriff, I would be interested in hearing your 

 response. I do understand that among the 91 hunters arrested was 

 yourself, another sheriff or two deputies. 



Mr. Oelrich. No, there were four sheriffs in the field that day, 

 three of whom got citations. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. My goodness. 



Mr. Oelrich. Yes. 



To answer your earlier question, this was not something that you 

 would have to do a lot of investigation. This was in the news- 

 papers. That is where the agent — who is here today and will be 

 better able to testify — he told me that they read about it in the 

 newspaper. And so, on what he termed to be high-profile hunts, he 

 went out there to check it out for himself I had a devil of a time 

 finding this place, but he went out there sometime prior to this and 

 determined that the field had grain on it. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Very interesting. So, he read about it in the 

 paper and went out and looked at the field? 



Mr. Oelrich. Right. 



