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it is for State managers, and in fact, in this case, this is a horren- 

 dous law. I beheve it is the same as the Florida law. This is the 

 law that has been adopted by Florida. So, we can point a lot of fin- 

 gers around here, but for the morning, I believe, this is still the law 

 of Florida and about 20 or 25 other states. This law speaks on bait- 

 ing. 



The Chairman. Is the gentleman through? 



Mr. Miller. Yes. 



The Chairman. I suggest one thing. I think the gentleman is cor- 

 rect that I am willing to try to change this law, because this is not 

 the first time. It has come in 1962, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1973, 1975 

 and 1977. It is time that we make this law more reasonable. 



Now, the actions of the Department, we will have them on the 

 witness stand next. We will question them, and there is no doubt 

 that they were implementing the law as they saw fit. I will again 

 be requesting this information. I want to know when the pictures 

 were taken. I hope they are dated. I want to know the exact loca- 

 tion; I hope you have that. I want to know who developed them just 

 for your information. I want to know these things. And I am not 

 attacking them. I just want to know. Because you are taking the 

 side that they are perfectly pure. I will take the side that they are 

 perfectly pure too. 



Mr. Miller. No, I am not taking the side that they are perfectly 

 pure. I am saying this should not be an allegory for beating up. 



The Chairman. Well, who is beating anybody up? These wit- 

 nesses here were very good. In fact, I want to compliment them. 

 If I had gone through what they have gone through, I would have 

 been terribly disturbed and probably a lot more, I would say, vocif- 

 erous in my presentation. 



Mr. Miller. Why do we not bring forward the four people who 

 assaulted the law enforcement officers in the discharge of their du- 

 ties? 



The Chairman. I checked the assault out, and if you call a hol- 

 lering match between two people — they were charged with assault 

 by the agents. What is the definition of assault? 



Mr. Miller. Who is going to charge them? 



The Chairman. Pardon? 



Mr. Miller. Who charges a police officer when you 



The Chairman. Under that definition of assault, are you assault- 

 ing me now? Are you assaulting me now? If I am a Federal 

 agent 



Mr. Miller. But you have no fear of me. There is no reasonable 

 fear in your body. You are the Chairman; you have no fear. 



The Chairman. If I am a Federal agent, I can say you are as- 

 saulting me. I mean, that is what I am saying. So, assault charges? 

 They plead guilty to the assault charges? 



Mr. Miller. Nobody went to court over those except those peo- 

 ple, and they were convicted. 



The Chairman. No, I agree; they plead it guilty. 



Mr. Miller. Right. 



The Chairman. And what I am suggesting here — and I told you 

 this yesterday — my intent is to change the law. 



Mr. Miller. Right. 



