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cetera, et cetera. It never mentions the landowner and never men- 

 tions the hunter. It says shooting over. 



Now, you are invited, Mr. Streeter, to go hunting with me, OK? 



Mr. Streeter. Mr. Miller said I should not. 



Mr. Miller. He invites me all of the time. 



The Chairman. He will not go. 



But seriously, now, how do you know that field is not baited if 

 I tell you it is not baited and it is my field? 



Mr. Streeter. As a hunter, I have always checked fields myself 



The Chairman. Now, wait a minute; wait a minute; wait a 

 minute; wait a minute; wait a minute. 



Mr. Streeter. Yes, sir. 



The Chairman. I am the agent, and I think that the corn has 

 been distributed. You are a hunter, and you do not see any corn. 

 I cite you. What is your defense? 



Mr. Streeter. If I have gone out and physically walked around 

 the field at least out to where I think is reasonable, a hundred, a 

 couple of hundred yards — I am not sure what that is — that would 

 be my only defense. I checked the field. 



The Chairman. OK; you just answered my question. That is not 

 clear, because you do not know what it is. That field is 200 acres; 

 it was clear down on the other end of the field or 600 acres, and 

 an agent decides it is planted there, you are guilty. 



Mr. Streeter. If an agent charges me with that, then, I would 

 be found guilty. 



The Chairman. That is right. 



Mr. Streeter. But my defense is that I made every appreciable 

 effort to determine whether it was baited. That would be my de- 

 fense. 



The Chairman. And your defense would not hold up in court. 

 You would have a choice of paying a fine or going to court and 

 maybe paying a $5,000 fine and being put in jail for 6 months. 



Mr. Streeter. Yes, sir; that would be my choice. 



The Chairman. That would be your choice. Now, what would you 

 do? 



Mr. Streeter. Sir, the first question you asked is whether I 

 thought this was clear language, and I think the language is clear. 

 As a biologist, I read it; I understand it. As a hunter, I read it and 

 understand it. It does not address whether I am responsible as the 

 hunter or as the landowner. But in terms of whether a field is bait- 

 ed or not, I do think that that is a clear statement. 



The Chairman. Well, now, you do not think the law should be 

 changed, then? 



Mr. Streeter. I do not believe the law should be changed. Regu- 

 lations, when they have been found to be unclear, should be 

 changed such as in the case of baiting regulations right now, we 

 are in the process of reviewing those regulations one more time, 

 sir, and revising them. 



The Chairman. Well, in all due respects, you are one agency; you 

 are one time. This is today; it is not tomorrow. I think the Con- 

 gress has to act on this. It is like you are getting great credit for 

 recognizing the refuges. Your administration opposes my bill. Now, 

 think about that a moment when you came in and testified before. 

 Now, that is a little bit weird for me. My bill does exactly what the 



