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Mr. SCHULZE. You are saying if the Fish and WildUfe would go 

 in on a property and put up a sign? 



Mr. Vento. If anyone who is aware of it who has a responsibiHty, 

 whom we give the responsibiHty to, in fact, oversee and enforce fish 

 and game laws. 



Mr. SCHULZE. What we would do under my proposal, Bruce, 

 would be to put that responsibility on either the farm manager or 

 the lessee. 



Mr. Vento. Well, I understand; they should have it, and they do 

 not exercise that today. But I think that beyond that, if you want 

 to avoid the types of confrontations and problems you have, what 

 is wrong with permitting — and you want to educate — what is 

 wrong with permitting the State officer or the Federal officer who 

 has the responsibility for enforcing the law to put up notification 

 that there is violation or that there would be a violation if someone 

 hunted there? 



Mr. Schulze. I think that is too much of a burden on the con- 

 servation officers, that they should cover a county or a three-county 

 or five-county area, and they should go out and put up signs every- 

 where. I think that is too much of an obligation on the conservation 

 officers. 



Mr. Vento. I know that not everybody who speeds is going to get 

 a warning ticket, but to give a warning to those who are going to 

 hunt on that, we could avert the type of confrontation we had in 

 many of these instances, and that would, I think, serve notice that 

 you cannot. Because I think the real issue here is that there are 

 disagreements as to whether or not baiting actually occurred. 



Mr. Schulze. I am sure that if the Committee in its wisdom de- 

 cides to appoint a task force on this topic that they will take that 

 under consideration. 



The Chairman. This Committee in its wisdom is going to write 

 a bill. 



Mr. Vento. We never have any task forces on this Committee, 

 do we? 



The Chairman. We are going to write a bill, and we are going 

 to change this law, and it is going to move out of this Committee, 

 and we will fight it on the Floor. I want to see who has the nerve 

 to say that a person is guilty when he is not. 



Mr. Schulze. I thank the Chairman, and I thank the Chairman 

 for the opportunity to testify before this distinguished Committee. 



The Chairman. Thank you, Richard. 



Mr. Duncan. Mr. Chairman? 



The Chairman. Yes. 



STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN J. DUNCAN, A U.S. 

 REPRESENTATIVE FROM TENNESSEE 



Mr. Dltncan. I just want to say I appreciate the reasonable, mod- 

 erate approach that Congressman Schulze has taken on this. I did 

 not know what this hearing was about when I first came here, and 

 when I read this briefing paper, I just really was shocked that our 

 laws would be interpreted by the bureaucrats at the Fish and Wild- 

 life Service in this manner to swoop down on people and stop this 

 hunt that was in Florida being done for charitable purposes. I 

 think it is just totally ridiculous, and I think this is the kind of 



