and to make it workable for all. Thank you; I would be glad to an- 

 swer any questions in the short time I have remaining. 



[The statement of Mr. Brewster may be found at end of hearing.! 



The Chairman. Thank you, Bill. And I hope people understand. 

 I doubt if my good friends understand where this came from. This 

 was a 1918 treaty, and this is actually a regulation that was not 

 a law passed and I hope you read this thing. I mean, there is no 

 way a person could even hunt anywhere if the agencies decided to 

 implement this so-called regulation. It is an open checkbook to ar- 

 rest anybody. 



Now, I know my gentleman from California says you can appeal. 

 Yes, if you are going to hire a lawyer. He is a lawyer; he would 

 like that. You could appeal, and then, it would cost you $2,000, and 

 in fact, under this law, you would probably lose the case, and then, 

 you could be sentenced to 6 months in jail and a $5,000 fine. The 

 automatic thing is well, right, big Government, you win again. 



Mr. Miller. Would the gentleman yield? 



The Chairman. Yes. 



Mr. Miller. Because we are running out of time. 



The Chairman. We have to go vote, and then, we will come back. 



Mr. Miller. I will just say it has been on the books for 60 years, 

 and millions of hunters and millions of landowners have conducted 

 themselves within the law, year in, year out; season in, season out; 

 species by species, you know. And the fact of the matter is that 

 that is the situation, and hunters are all aware of the problems of 

 baiting. It is discussed in every goddamned coffee shop before you 

 hunt, after you hunt: what is this guy doing in this field? What is 

 this hunter doing with his blinds? 



The Chairman. Reclaiming my time 



Mr. Miller. Did you hear about Joe? They are looking at him. 



The Chairman. Reclaiming my time 



Mr. Miller. He does not know. 



The Chairman. You know, it is funny; in California, you can 

 hunt over baited fields for dove. Did you know that? 



Mr. Miller. No, I do not know that. 



The Chairman. I know you do not know that; you do not know 

 the subject. But you can hunt over a baited field. 



Mr. Miller. I know the subject because I have friends who have 

 been cited, friends who have been arrested and friends who 

 have 



The Chairman. You can hunt over baited fields in California. No 

 wonder you do not care about changing the regulation. 



Mr. Brewster. Mr. Chairman, can I make one comment? 



The Chairman. Yes, Bill. 



Mr. Miller. But, you know, you cannot hunt over baited fields 

 in Florida. 



The Chairman. You can do it in California. 



Mr. Miller. Yes, but these folks are from Florida. 



The Chairman. Yes; I understand that. 



Mr. Miller. You are doing everything you can to move off the 

 subject here. 



The Chairman. Mr. Brewster? 



No, I am not. 



