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Mr. Oliveros. I can show you on these aerial photos if you care. 

 I took the pictures, so I know where they were taken. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. OK; so, you can track that out? 



Mr. Oliveros. Yes. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. OK. 



Let me ask you did you have evidence that there was excessive 

 drinking going on? And if you did, and if there was a law against 

 that, why were people not arrested for unruly or reckless conduct? 



Mr. Oliveros. I saw lots of people who had been heavily drink- 

 ing. There is no Federal law that I enforce that prohibits that. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. You had four sheriffs there. Did you make any 

 attempt to contact those sheriffs about any excessive drinking or 

 behavior that may, in your judgment, endanger others? 



Mr. Oliveros. Well, one of the sheriffs was drinking when I got 

 there. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. And you are stating that for the record, and 

 you can prove that one of the sheriffs was drinking? 



Mr. Oliveros. One of the officers that contacted one of the sher- 

 iffs told me that. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. One of the officers? Is that not called hearsay? 



Mr. Oliveros. Yes. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Are you certain for yourself that that oc- 

 curred? 



Mr. Oliveros. I am certain that he told me that, yes. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Because you believe the person who told you. 



Mr. Oliveros. Yes. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. That is called hearsay, is it not? 



Mr. Miller. Yes, but not in Congress, it is not called hearsay. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Excuse me; I did not release my time, sir. 



Mr. Oliveros. And in response to your question, I was not aware 

 that there were any sheriffs on the field until near the end of the 

 hunt after we were gathering up the information. In other words, 

 other people contacted the sheriffs. They were not identified as 

 sheriffs. They were not wearing uniforms or anything. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. But if you had contacted the sheriffs' offices, 

 then, you would have known that there were sheriffs out there, 

 would you have not? 



Mr. Oliveros. If I would have — pardon me? At that time? 



Mrs. Chenoweth. If you had contacted the sheriffs office in 

 Dixie County, you would have known that there were other officers 

 out there, would you have not? 



Mr. Oliveros. At what time? 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Any time. 



Mr. Oliveros. Oh, sure, yes; I would have. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. You heard the people who testified here that 

 none of them or anyone they know saw the grain that was used as 

 baiting. 



Mr. Oliveros. Yes; I heard that. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Well, did you make any attempt to show any- 

 one the evidence? 



Mr. Oliveros. Yes, I did. Each person I contacted, I told them 

 I would be glad to show them the bait; I told them the place was 

 heavily baited. I also contacted many of the hunters who came to 

 a central point that were contacted by other ones, and they asked 



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