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force that the Government is using, even in dove hunts, because it 

 is not a good step. And I thank you for being here. 



Mr. Streeter, I did want to ask you one question: are you a hun- 

 ter? 



Mr. Streeter. Yes. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. Have you ever been on a dove hunt? 



Mr. Streeter. Yes, ma'am; in about five different states. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. In five different states? 



Mr. Streeter. But I have not been on a hunt where there were 

 over 100 people in the field. 



Mrs. Chenoweth. OK; thank you very much. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



The Chairman, [presiding] Thank you. 



Do you have any questions? 



Mr. Miller. I just want to thank the 



The Chairman. No closing statements now. 



Mr. Miller. No closing statements. I was just saying thank you 

 to the panel. 



The Chairman. I appreciate the panel. You can step down. 



At this time, I am going to use the Chairman's prerogative and 

 call the Senator back to the stand. 



Senator Williams? And I do apologize to the other witnesses, but 

 there were a lot of statements made here, and I think the Senator 

 has the ability to comment. Senator, you are on for 5 minutes. 



Mr. Williams. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will not belabor a lot 

 of the points. I will just say that our panel that was here today 

 tried to approach the situation from a very professional standpoint. 

 I do not think any of us got up and bashed the U.S. Fish and Wild- 

 life Service. That was not our purpose in being here today. Our 

 purpose is to try to help change a very complex law that I believe 

 needs to be changed. 



I can assure you that even though there may have been some 

 violations that occurred that day that I did everything within my 

 power as the host of that hunt in my talk with everyone to get 

 them to obey the game laws and to be safe in that field. It dis- 

 tresses me that Mr. Oliveros — however he pronounces his name, 

 and I apologize, sir, if I mispronounced it — says there was a consid- 

 erable amount of drinking. There were a lot of vehicles that drove 

 in that field, and certainly, we did not have a spot check of every 

 vehicle to see that there was not beer in a cooler or whatever. I 

 can tell you that I saw no one in that field when I was out there 

 who was intoxicated. When people came back to the barn, I saw no 

 one whom I believed to be intoxicated, contrary to what Mr. 

 Oliveros would have you believe that people were out in that field 

 drunk. I do not believe that that was true at all. 



He said he felt unsafe, and that was the reason why he refused 

 to stop the hunt earlier. I really do not understand that. The 10 

 or 12 agents who were there scattered out — and I was not in the 

 field — all around the field, and none of them were very close to 

 each other, evidently. So, I do not know how he would have felt un- 

 safe himself walking out there before all of the other agents that 

 he said got there that day. But I am told by many of the people 

 who were there that the agents who talked to them said they had 



