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fact that we maybe really haven't developed what our strategy is. 

 And each is attempting to move as aggressively as they can to pro- 

 tect their own interests, and that perhaps it is time to raise the 

 question as a country what is our long-term policy going to be? 



And I would suggest that, you know, 6 or 700 million acres and 

 largely concentrated in certain parts of the country balanced 

 against relatively small totals of acreage in other parts of the coun- 

 try could pose some very interesting conservation and habitat is- 

 sues. So that is why I asked the question. Thank you. 



Mr. Ashe. Thank you. 



Mr. LONGLEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Saxton. Dan, thank you very much. There are no other 

 questions at this time. Thank you for your very articulate and very 

 well-given testimony and answers to questions. 



Mr. Ashe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Saxton. Thank you and we will move on to the next panel. 

 The next panel is made up of a number of individuals with a great 

 deal of background in fish, game, and wildlife issues. First, a good 

 friend of mine from New Jersey, Mr. Bob McDowell, who is Direc- 

 tor of the New Jersey Division of Fish, Game, and Wildlife, works 

 actually for my good friend. Governor Whitman, and for my good 

 friend, DEP Commissioner Bob Shinn. 



Bob and I worked on many issues together over the years, and 

 I have always enjoyed our relationship. And I want to make a spe- 

 cial point to welcome you here this morning. Bob, and hopefully we 

 can get the Northeastern flyway Canada goose situation under con- 

 trol before the 



Mr. McDowell. We are working on it. 



Mr. Saxton. Before the fall season starts. We are also joined by 

 Mr. Martin Mac Donald, who is Director of Corporate Public Rela- 

 tions of the Conservation and Youth Development of Bass Pro 

 Shops; Mr. David Weizenicker, who is President of the National As- 

 sociation of State Park Directors; Mr. Bob Jenks of the National 

 Wild Turkey Federation; Mr. Ted Eubanks, who is President of 

 Fermata, Inc.; and Mr. James Mailman, who is Manager, Commod- 

 ities Trading, American Agco Trading Company. Mr. Bob 

 McDowell, would you. like to start us off? 



Let me just remind each of you that we have a five-minute rule 

 primarily because of the number of witnesses that we have today. 

 There are three little lights there in the middle of the table. The 

 green one means you are off and running. The yellow one means 

 that you have got 30 seconds to go, and the red one means please 

 conclude your thoughts. Bob, if you would like to begin for us? 



STATEMENT OF ROBERT L. MCDOWELL, DIRECTOR, NEW 

 JERSEY DIVISION OF FISH, GAME, AND WILDLIFE 



Mr. McDowell. Well, first of all, I would like to thank you, Mr. 

 Chairman, and the committee for hearing about this grand oppor- 

 tunity that we have to sort of close the loop in the area of wildlife 

 management — put the third leg on the stool, so to speak. Because 

 one of the areas that we haven't addressed are species that are not 

 endangered species, nor game species. They fall in the middle. The 

 game species we are doing well. We are making progress on endan- 



