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Mr. PoAGE. You would probably have to collect it through a proc- 

 essing tax such as has been proposed in the past. We might take 2 or 

 ^3 percent of the sales value of every commodity as it went into the 

 market. There would not be a great deal of difficulty in collecting 

 that way and we would be doing substantially what we are doing for 

 people in other lines of endeavor. 



At least we would not be stigmatizing the farmer as being the only 

 man who was taking a direct hand-out from the Government. We 

 would be doing another thing, as I see it. We would be greatly sta- 

 bilizing the program because I frankly do not believe you can get a 

 program like Mr. Brannan has suggested to continue year after year 

 liaving Congress going into the public till to take out this money. 



If you have a trust fund to which the farmer has contributed Con- 

 gress is going to be much more reluctant to default than where it is 

 merely a proposition of keeping a program going with tax mone3\ 



I think you would have a great deal more stability in your support. 



Mr. WixGATE. Congressman, I would like to say that I think j^our 

 farmers are faced with a different problem there. We have to pay for 

 these surpluses and there is enough surplus that your price is going to 

 sta}^ low. If we agree to a 90-percent progTam, I do not think you 

 ouuht to make him pay insurance too. 



He is paying somebody 10 percent there. 



Mr. CooLEY. Suppose you made it 100 percent. 



^Ir. WixGATE. Then. I would agree to go along with the insurance 

 plan and paying some on it. I say the money cannot be obtained in 

 the amount that it will be needed for the Braiman plan and I think 

 that would wreck it. 



My plan is that we should have a farm program that will guarantee 

 us for commodities where the farmers comply that they will have 90 

 percent so long as the supply is normal or less. 



Certainly that could luot cost the Government. They would just 

 stabilize the situation there. 



Then when it p'assed normal I think we should call for quotas. 



In the Aiken bill it is mandatory that the Secretary call for quotas 

 at 108 percent of the normal supply. 



If we can hold it between 108 and 110 we will have a little latitude. 

 We can give him 90 percent of parity. If you do not control and sur- 

 pluses keep piling up certainly there must be penalties. 



I would just put the sliding scale into effect and let them see that 

 there must be controls. 



Mr. PoAGE. Mr. Wingate, is there any advantage in sliding down 

 your supports? Can you not accomplish exactly the same thing by 

 cutting further on yotir acreage? 



Mr. WixGATE. That is what I say. They would have to take the cut 

 or take the price. They can handle it either way. That is exactly the 

 ])oint. Mr. Congressman. That is my plan. I appreciate this oppor- 

 tunity to come before you. 



]Mr. Pace. Thank you very much, ^Ir. Wingate. 



We are always glad to have you. Our distinguished chairman will 

 present the next witness, 



]\Ir, Cooley, Mr. Chairman, Mr. Shaw has been before this com- 

 mittee many times. 



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