658 GENERAL FARM PROGRAM 



W8 are going to be faced with the fact that it hits all producers alike, 

 whether spring wheat area or the Pacific Northwest. 



And, if there is a difference of 50 cents in the purchase price it still 

 does not mean it will all go to foreign countries. 



Mr. Andresen. But you announce the figures on wheat produc- 

 tion — they are announced for wheat, whether they are soft or winter 

 wheat or hard spring wheat? 



Mr. Taylor. Yes; but we have this problem, Mr. Andresen, we 

 have roughly 100,000,000-bushel production in the Pacific Northwest. 

 We have a different problem, as it affects our area in the Pacific 

 Northwest. We have to export from the area about 65 percent of oar 

 crop under the present program using restricted acreage control, 

 which keeps it at a level that feeders will not be able to develop a 

 feeding program in the Northwest. We feel we should have a pro- 

 gram that would provide for marketing some of the wheat below 

 parity, so it can be used as feed, and therefore have less requirement 

 for acreage allotment. 



Mr. Andresen. And then when you had acreage allotment come 

 along in your case, the area in wheat was cut down. 



Mr. Taylor. We summer-fallow. There were some areas that 

 we did not have summer fallowing, but did summer fallowing of the 

 •diverted acres, and they produced more as a result of that good practice 

 and they are not penalized to the extent we are in the Pacific 

 Northwest. 



Mr. Andresen. Did you ever run cattle on your winter wheat? 



Mr. Taylor. I have had, in the years past, approximately 200 acres 

 of land of hill-land pasturage that could not be farmed, and I used to 

 have some cattle when I stopped using mules and horses which pas- 

 tured the stubble and got some use out of the byproduct of that stubble. 

 I used to keep about 60 head of white-faced cows, but during the war, 

 when labor went up so much, I sold them and do not have any at the 

 present time. 



If a program is set up that requires me not to farm all of my land, 

 then I would get back into something, gi-azing livestock as a supple- 

 ment to my wheat production, but if the other program were developed 

 which says that you cannot plant your land for any other purpose, 

 then there is no use for diverted acreage. 



Mr. Andresen. It seems to me that, with all of the research that 

 we are doing, we could find some good use that will move some of that 

 wheat and increase the number of cattle. That has been the product 

 we need at least to increase. 



Mr. Taylor. There are various differences between the type of land 

 that is diverted and the use that can be made of that land. Some of 

 it is on the north slope and may get more moisture; and some of it 

 may slope more than the other. That is one of the reasons we oppose 

 the original program, because we felt you could not lay down a straight 

 percentage line for diverted acreage. Some people could divert and 

 some people should not divert as much. 



Mr. Pace. Thank you very much, Mr. Taylor. Did you have 

 some questions, Mr. Hope? 



Mr. Hope. This program that you have suggested is quite similar, 

 not specifically in some of the details, w^ith the original triple-A pro- 

 gram of 1932, where we had the processing tax on wheat, except yours 

 would not require development to the point where it would be as 



