GENERAL FARM PROGRAM 665 



If we have this wheat out in the granaries, even though it is held 

 off the market, the grain trade knows it is out there and sooner or 

 later something is going to happen to that wheat. And, the more 

 wheat you have stored up out in the country, in the elevators and 

 bins the more it is going to cost the Treasury of the United States 

 to keep up the market price, because the grain trade knows that wheat 

 IS in existence and that very fact will keep on depressing the market. 



Mr. Chairman, I believe that about expresses my views, unless 

 there are some questions. 



Mr. Pace. Thank you very much, Mr. Kuper. Are there any 

 questions, Mr. Worley. 



Mr. Worley. Based on your knowledge, Mr. Kuper, of Mr. 

 Brannan's plan, you probably do not favor it? 



Mr. Kuper. Yes. 



Mr. "Worley. Do you have any objection at all to the two-price 

 system? 



Mr. Kuper. Well I think the two-price plan — and I am willing to 

 consider anything — I think the two-price plan might operate, but I 

 know that the boys in W ashington and Oregon, in the Pacific North- 

 west, do have a difficult proposition. They are not like some of the 

 other States in other areas. But stiU, unless we know what we can 

 do with that grain that is being held off the market, with that extra 

 price, how are you going to be able to keep it from leaking though 

 channels into the mills, and so forth? It is just a question that 

 involves a lot of elements, and that is one that I am thinking about 

 now. 



Another is that we have got the wheat there, and that is the thing 

 that produces the market; it is a supply that is visible, and as long as 

 it is there it is going to have effect. 



Mr. Whorley. I believe that the great majority of the farmers 

 down in our part of the country would prefer to stay with the present 

 program with acreage controls? 



Mr. Kuper. Yes. 



Mr. Worley. Do you agree with that? 



Mr. Kuper. Yes. 



Mr. Worley. Thank you. 



Mr. Pace. Mr. Granger. 



Mr. Granger. Mr. Kuper, do you follow summer fallowing in your 

 section? 



Mr. Kuper. No, I have not personally, not to any great extent, no 



Mr. Granger. That is the generally accepted practice, is it not? 



Mr. Kuper. Yes. 



Mr. Granger. Do you know whether the wheat growers following 

 soil conservation practices get paid for summer fallowing? 



Mr. Kuper. Not to amount to anything — I think it is limited to 

 $500 to any farmer, regardless of how much farm he has, whether it 

 is a section or ten sections, he does not get any more. 



Mr. Granger. Do you think the wheat farmer should be entitled 

 to a subsidy payment whether he does follow good conservation 

 practices, or whether he does not? 



Mr. Kuper. No; I would not go for that, Congressman. I think 

 that a man should take care of his land without being paid for it. 



Mr. Granger. One other thing: How many cattle and sheep have 

 been displaced as the result of the big operators of wheat farms in the 

 Panhandle of Texas? 



