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production. But the thing that concerns us most is thinking that we 

 are going right into competition with the corn farmer. 



Mr. Hill. Let me ask you this: Do you think you could, merely 

 by producing milo maize, feed cattle and increase the livestock, by 

 feeding them milo maize or kaffir corn, without hay or other roughness 

 and go in competition with the farmers feeding livestock in other 

 sections? 



Mr. KuPER. Well, the nearest thing to my mind, for putting them 

 on the market 



Mr. White. We have in California. 



Mr. Hill, You have increased your livestock to an appreciable 

 extent? 



Mr. White. Quite a bit. 



Mr. Hill. Because you are close to the California market? 



Mr. White. Yes. 



Mr. KuPER. We could increase our production of beef through all 

 of these methods, but the thing that we want to do, Mr. Hill, is this: 

 We want to be fair to everybody, and we do not want to hurt the com 

 producer. 



Mr. Hill. Is that not characteristic of farmers everywhere, that 

 they want to be fair to everybody? 



Mr. KuPER. I think so. 



Mr. Hill. But you could increase your livestock? 



Mr. KuPER. Yes. But we must do something about this price 

 situation. If we do not, we will be back where we were a few years 

 ago. 



Mr. Hill. Because of the greater earning from production of 

 wheat, since it took 15 acres of land to graze a cow, you had to get 

 out of the cattle-production business, when the price of land increased 

 to the extent that you could not afford to raise cattle? 



Mr. KuPER. Yes. 



Mr. Pace. Mr. Hope. 



Mr. Hope. As you have indicated, you could shift to cattle feeding 

 in your area just as easy as you shifted to wheat; you could shift to 

 wheat, if you had the land in feed, could you not? 



Mr. KuPER. Yes. 



Mr. Hope. Instead of letting the people come down and buying 

 feeder cattle from you ajid turn them over to feeders? 



Mr. KuPER. Yes. 



Mr. Hope. In other words, you could go ahead and feed the cattle? 



Mr. Hill. Of course, it is going to take something else beside grain 

 to fatten cattle. Wliat are you going to do for hay? Can you produce 

 hay right in your vicinity? And how much could you produce? 

 What sort of hay? 



Mr. KuPER. It could be grown on this diverted acreage. We can 

 plant almost any kind of hay crops, like sudan; we can plant kaffir corn 

 and other hay crops. 



Mr. Hill. Forage crops? 



Mr. KuPER. Yes. And, we have silos down there; for years we 

 have had a lot of silos for green ensilage. 



Mr. Pace. Gentlemen, pardon me, but we have a long way to go 

 if we are to complete with the witnesses. 



Mr. Hope. Just one or two other questions: I understood you to 

 say that you personally do not summer fallow? 



