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We can head them off, they are not necessary if we carry on a good, 

 common-sense soil conservation and balanced-agriculture program for 

 the American farmer as I have outlined. 



Mr. HoEVEX. Mr. Chairman, I know there are other witnesses to 

 be heard this morning and so I shall not ask any questions at this 

 time. I simph' want to compliment my colleague for the great 

 interest he has alwaj^s shown in the welfare of agriculture and the 

 conservation of soil. 



Mr. O'SuLLiVAX. When you say that the Brannan plan is un- 

 American, I don't believe I can agree with that statement of yours. 

 I expect it is an imperfect statement on your part. I believe Secretary 

 Brannan has as much patriotism about his plan as you have about 

 yours. I think we are all Americans and I think it is a pretty poor 

 thing for you to say, first, that you don't bring in politics in this 

 situation, and then in the next breath try to brand Democratic 

 members and Republican members of this committee as doing and 

 putting out an un-American plan. I don't believe that statement of 

 your sets very well with the members of this committee, when you 

 say that is an un-American plan. You have no right to make any 

 such statement, or in any way castigate the Secretary of Agriculture, 

 whom I regard as a true blue American, in fact a little better American 

 than you are. 



Mr. Jensex. A!I right: that is all right. Let me answer the gentle- 

 man. Please let me make an ansvrer. 



Mr. Pace. Go ahead. 



Mr. HoEVEX. I doubt if we want this stuff in the record. I think 

 Mr. O 'Sullivan should withdraw it. 



Mr. O'SuLLivAX'. I will not withdraw it and I am sick of this kind 

 of Republican propaganda. 



Mr. Pace. I want to say this to my distinguished friend. I think 

 we have the responsibility of protecting witnesses who appear before 

 the committee. Of course, witnesses should make their remarks 

 conform to the facts and not unduly attack an^^one else. This angle 

 of the matter can be dispensed with. Under the circumstances I 

 think Mr. Hoeven should have an opportunity to reply to the 

 gentleman. 



Mr. HoEVEX. Mr. Chairman, I would like to propound a parlia- 

 mentary inquiry. There was a gentleman's agreement that the 

 witnesses should be permitted to testif}^ and should not be inter- 

 rupted by the members of the committee and no exception was 

 made as to Members of Congress who testify. I asked no question 

 but simply paid a compliment to the gentleman from Iowa. 



Mr. Pace. The Chair took the position, in the light of the fact that 

 there are Members of Congress who are questioning Members of 

 the House. Has the gentleman from Iowa, Mr. Jensen, finished 

 his statement? 



Mr. Jexsex. If you will notice, Mr. Chairman, I took in a proposal 

 by a Republican and by a Democrat: and I contend, in answer to 

 Mr. O'Sullivan, that any program that will lead America into a 

 dictatorship and bring ever}' farmer in America under the control of a 

 centrnlized government that can go out and put a gestapo at every 

 farm if they so desire, to see that the farmer complies with the law, 

 that is un-American, in my book, and I stand on it. I did not accuse 

 Mr. Brannan of being un-American, or Mr. Aiken, or any of the rest 



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