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Mr. Pace. I understand there are no circumstances under which: 

 your group would want the production payment method of support. 



Mr. Hubbard. We can find so many disadvantages to it that it 

 overrules all of the visible advantages. It seems to us that the bureau- 

 cracy involved would be very tremendous. 



Mr. Pace. Mr. Hubbard, your association of poultry producers is 

 whom? 



Mr. Hubbard. That is made up of our regional and national poultry 

 producers organizations. 



Mr. Pace. Is that your commercial producers? . 



Mr. Hubbard. The Federation is made up of the Northern Poultry 

 Producers Council, the International Baby Chick Association, the 

 National Turkey Producers Federation, the Southeastern Poultry 

 Producers Federation, and the Utah Farmers Cooperative. 



Mr. Pace. But on the whole they are large commercial producers? 



Mr. Hubbard. Our leadership in the industry comes very much 

 from commercial operators. 



Mr. Pace. And its thinking is somewhat controlled by that group? 



Air. Hubbard. Of course, the improvement in efficiency of the 

 poultry industry has resulted very much from the leadership and the 

 improvements that have been developed by the commercial operators 

 and your'farm operators follow those practices. 



Mr. Pace. I want to say that they are to be commended for the 

 great improvements they have made, not only m the respect you 

 mentioned, but also in the development of feeds for pountry. I 

 think that has been one of the greatest forward steps in the Nation's 

 history in the agricultural field. 



Mr. Hubbard. I have a wire from one of our members which I 

 would be glad to read. 



Mr. Pace. All right, sir. 



Mr. Hubbard (reading) : 



Have canvassed most of members of Associated and would appreciate your 

 reporting our position as follows: 



We stand firmly on the statement presented to the Pace subcommittee on 

 May 18. We feel that the suggested change from subsidy based on loans and 

 purchase to an experimental plan of subsidy based on production will prove to 

 be another type of production incentive or profit guaranty instead of a stabilizing 

 factor to protect the producer from ruinous loss and the markets from serious 

 demoralization. We oppose such experimentation. Please convey this thought 

 to the committee in behalf of Associated Poultry and Egg Industries. As for 

 the Utah Poultry and Farmers Cooperative, our position is expressed in the 

 statement of the National Poultry Producers Federation. 



Clyde C. Edmonds, 

 President, Associated Poultry and Egg Industries, and 

 Secretary of the Utah Poultry and Farmers Cooperative. 



. Mr. Pace. Are there any questions? 



Mr. Murray. Just one. Supporting the position that' the gentle- 

 man has taken, in the balmy days of the OPA, though they had a 

 price control over eggs they never even entered into the other phase 

 of the industry as they did in other farm commodities. They did 

 not try to control the consumption of them because they just saw 

 how hopeless such a procedure was, is that not right? 



Mr. Hubbard. Our industry has been very free from control and 

 we are very pi'oud of the fact that we met all the goals asked of us 

 during the war. 



