ILLINOIS STATE BEE-KEEPERS' ASSOCIATION 



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President Miller — Any further dis- 

 cussion "of this? 



Mr. Anguish from Canada has a 

 word. 



Mr. Anguish — Mr. Chairman and 

 Bee-Keepers: I listened to this over 

 at Lansing. It is one of our most vital 

 points in bee-keeping — getting rid of 

 our honey. 



I will give you a little idea how we 

 run it over there. 



I won't say we are ahead of you. 

 We are in price — the way we have been 

 going this three or four years — in our 

 Association at the Ontario Bee-Keep- 

 ers, I am speaking of now. 



All of our local associations are af- 

 filiated with that association. They 

 send out a list to all of us. We have a 

 committee formed from oirr associa- 

 tion — The Sales Committee from the 

 Ontario Bee-Keepers' Association — of 

 three members, with the Secretary 

 added, that makes four, and they send 

 out a circular every fall or every sum- 

 mer, about the time our honey sea- 

 son is winding up — that is our light 

 honey season — before it is off, and we 

 send in an estimate of what we have 

 got; the number of colonies we had in 

 the spring, the number of pounds of 

 old honey on hand, if we have any, 

 and the number of pounds of honey 

 we are looking for — and they figure up 

 the situation, taking into consideration 

 all kinds of fruits — they figure that in 

 with the honey — and form an estimate 

 of the price, and then they set the 

 price. ^ 



The first year the wholfra.lers did 

 not pay much attention to it, but now 

 we can't sell to the wholesaler until 

 after these prices come out. We find 

 this works out fine. 



Some get a little weak in the knees 

 when they see these reports — such lots 

 of honey, and they sell below — but 

 those that hold out get their price 

 every time; that is the way we run 

 it in Ontario. 



Mr. Bruner — What price are you 

 getting this year for extracted, clover? 



Mr. Anguish — I should not tell or 

 you will want to come over there and 

 keep bees; so far as keeping bees it 

 is all right, but the citizenship! 



Mr. Bruner — Yes, I know we are un- 

 desirable. 



Mr. Anguish — The committee struck 

 o\ir price this year at 11% cents, ex- 

 tracted, wholesale. 



Mr. Bruner — Do they make any 

 recommendations as to the price to 

 retailers ? 



Mr. Anguish — No, that is where I 

 have been at them. The retailer then 

 thinks he is a wholesaler because he 

 is wholesaling a few pounds — that is 

 the only thing that is wrong in it. I 

 have always contended the wholesaler 

 is thenian you sell the \vhole crop to, 



Mr. Anguish — The best thing about 

 this is that it comes out in every 

 paper; all our papers will have it; one 

 paper copies it from the other. And 

 that does not hurt you any because 

 every time you speak of honey you 

 are advertising it. 



Mr. Stewart — Are you not forming a 

 trust on honey when you meet together 

 and set a price? 



Mr. Anguish — We do meet together, 

 but are we overdoing it? 



Mr. Bruner — The government is not 

 objecting to trusts among farmers on 

 this side; it is only some of the rest 

 of us in some other kind of business 

 than farmers. The price is fixed on 

 Elgin creamery butter every w^eek. 



President Miller — We have with us 

 Mr. Kindig, Newspaper Inspector from 

 the state of Michigan, we would like 

 to hear from him. Mr. Kindig, we 

 would like to have a few words from 

 you. 



Mr. Kindig— Ladies and Gentlemen: 

 I am sure this is an unexpected pleas- 

 ure. I hardly expected, with my small 

 experience, that it would be of any 

 value to gentlemen who have been in 

 the game all their lives, but, when Mr. 

 Bruner was talking about that adver- 

 tisement which appeared in the paper 

 between two small advertisements, I 

 could not help but feel it was the price 

 that sold it. The general public knows 

 mighty little about honey. 



You can take two pails of honey; 

 (I never tried this, but I believe it is 

 true); and go to the ordinary buyer 

 of honey and ask him fifteen cents for 

 one and eighteen cents for the other, 

 and he will buy that for eighteen cents. 



I say that because of my experience 

 in selling to the consuming trade — 

 that it is not so much a question of 

 what they pay for it; (that is a sec- 

 ondary matter if they want honey) ; 

 but they want the best they can get. 

 Not many of them are going to quibble 

 about the price. Nineteen or twenty 



