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think it policy to make each hive say 

 twenty or thirty or forty pounds. 



In the spring of the year you can tell 

 which colony will need the most by 

 the weight of them. At that time of 

 the year I put my shallow super under- 

 neath and the bees carry up the 

 amount they need. I never take of£ the 

 cover until after fruit bloom; keep the 

 covers tight and sealed. Do my feed- 

 ing from below. 



President Miller — Don't you find 

 they may take up more than they need 

 and clog the brood combs ? If the super 

 is placed under they will take it all 

 up; if you have very much of it they 

 might clog the brood comb so as to 

 restrict the laying of the queen. 



Mr. Wheeler — I don't like to put it on 

 top. 



Mr, Bull — Use queen excluder. 



Mr, Stewart — How many l;iives of 

 bees out of ten thousand did you ever 

 see have too much in the brood cham- 

 ber in the fall? 



President Miller — I don't think they 

 have too much in the fall, but in the 

 spring. If you have a slow queen you 

 frequently find combs clogged below 

 and no place to put in the brood. 



Mr. Bull — I know I have had some 

 colonies that were extra heavy when I 

 took them out in the spring and I was 

 worried for fear the queen would not 

 have room enough, but somehow or 

 other the honey disappears. 



Mr. Wilcox — ^I know the bees have 

 carried it and put it in the super; it 

 disappears; it goes right up. 



Mr. Bruner — You have heard what 

 big hives the Carnolians have to have 

 or they won't do business; you have 

 heard about those combs in the south 

 like that. 



The finest bees I ever saw in the 

 spring, I wintered in two stories, ten 

 frame brood nest all summer the year 

 round; the excluder was never taken 

 ofC the top of second story except to 

 get frames out occasionally; those 

 queens were never crowded in the 

 brood nest and never lacked stores and 

 they wintered without protection. 



They had t^e honey there and they 

 lived in a natural sort of way. They 

 always had honey in the fall or 

 winter and had room to breed in; the 

 only thing was to see that they had 

 the right sort of queen. 



President Miller — In a cellar you 

 would find it a pretty difficult matter 

 to carry in and out the double hives. 

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It is not practical to use double hive 

 body in wintering where the bees are 

 wintered in a cellar. 



Mr. Bull — In regard to that double 

 hive body : I winter five or ten every 

 winter in two story hives. Put the 

 two together and run them thaf way , J. 

 sometimes all summer; I cannot see 

 any difEerence; I get just as much 

 honey out of ten frames as twenty. 



The idea is this: If you put it in 

 twenty combs you will have a couple 

 inches of honey over the top with 

 third or half frame full of brood, *: 

 whereas, if that comb was down below, , 



maybe a couple inches square in each 1 



corner of frame and rest of the frame } 



top to bottom solid with brood. 



A member — ^Won't they sometimes - 



eat up all the honey? 



Mr. Bull — ^'^hen you set your bees 

 out in the spring those hives a^e pretty I 



well filled with honey. - 



President Williams — It is getting 

 late, and we will now adjourn until », 

 tomorrow, Tuesday morning, at 9:30 

 o'clock. 



MORNING SESSION. 



Second Day — December 5th. 



Convention called to order by Presi- 

 dent Miller at 10 a. m. 



President Miller — It was suggested 

 by Mr. Bruner and others that a com- 

 mittee be appointed for next year to 

 ascertain the condition of the crops 

 and to recommend a price at which 

 bee-keepers should sell their honey. 

 What do you think of the proposition? 



Mr. Roehrs — Is it meant by that that 

 this committee will know of all the 

 members of the society what the pros- 

 pects are and what is coming in and 

 recommend the retail and wholesale 

 price? I think that is a good idea. 

 It seems to me at present there are 

 some individuals who have the means 

 to get in touch with all the bee-keep- 

 ers and know exactly what their crop 

 is, and inquire at what price they are 

 willing to sell and sell under the 

 market price, so we could do away with 

 that and have all the bee-keepers get 

 the necessary information and get an 

 idea of what the prices really are and 

 ought to be, and it would be a great 

 benefit to the association. 



Mr. Anguish — Give us a word, or two 

 about th^ mode of operation in Canada. 



Mr. Anguish— Of course, I kind of 



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