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can use it than to get up these circu- 

 lars? 



President Miller — Shall we have this 

 committee, is the question? Shall we 

 appoint such a committee or elect, what 

 is your pleasure? 



Mr. Ulman — I move that a commit- 

 tee of three be appointed, including 

 your taking in the Secretary, making it 

 a committee of four altogether, 



Mr. Hassinger — I should like to ask 

 how that committee is going to de- 

 termine that and whether they are 

 going to estimate those prices just for 

 this community or for the United 

 States. 



Mr. Ulman — I was very much inter- 

 ested in Mr. Anguish's suggestion as 

 to how they do in Ontario. 



It seems to me at this meeting here 

 there is a gathering representing sev- 

 eral different states, and, if each mem- 

 ber when he goes home will get in 

 touch with his secretary, and have his 

 secretary get in touch with the secre- 

 taries of the Association in various 

 states — say in the central states — by 

 doing a little co-operative work among 

 the different State Associations we 

 can get a pretty fair idea of the 

 amount of honey that is being pro- 

 duced and the price it is bringing in 

 various places. 



Mr. Wilcox — I can see there is some- 

 thing more to this than heretofore 

 talked about; we must fix a region of 

 territory in which we shall operate. We 

 cannot cover the whole United States; 

 the postage alone would exceed our in- 

 come; we must restrict this investiga- 

 tion to certain territory, and as this 

 Chicago market is the great central 

 market of the west, it would be well 

 to take any territory tributary to this 

 market. 



Perhaps four states might be suffi- 

 cient, and the other states might be 

 governed by it: Illinois, Indiana, Wis- 

 consin, Michigan, Iowa, are pretty good 

 honey states, and convenient also. 



It would be a good plan to include 

 Iowa but we cannot go too far without 

 giving too much work to this commit- 

 tee. 



Mr. Bull — In regard to how far we 

 can go: I have a list of 1600 names of 

 bee-keepers — and that is about a little 

 over half in Illinois; there is quite a 

 number from Indiana, some from 

 Michigan, and a few from Iowa, and 

 a good many from Wisconsin. 



I think we would have to limit our- 



selves, say, to southern Michigan, 

 northern Indiana, Illinois and, say, the 

 southern part or maybe all of Wiscon- 

 sin; maybe a little of Iowa. 



If you reach anything like the ma- 

 jority of people there according to the 

 way we have this list here, it would 

 run up to two or three thousand 

 names; in other "words, we want to 

 catch the honey that comes to Chi- 

 cago. 



You would have to send out notices 

 which would cost a penny apiece for 

 stamps alone, besides your printing. 



Then you would have to send an- 

 other notice of the prices to the 2,000 

 names; you would have $40.00 alone 

 for postage stamps and printing extra, 

 but the printing would not be so much. 

 I think. I got 1,600 printed last year 

 for four or five dollars. 



Mr. Wilcox — If you are going into 

 this state, I would suggest you take in, 

 some way, Mr. France, for he is paid 

 by the state and he has a list of bee- 

 keepers — ^a list of every bee-keeper in 

 the state he can possibly obtain, and 

 he has been getting that list for fifteen 

 or twenty years, and keeping it up. 



How many colonies each one has — 

 what the yield of honey is — 



This list he has and it can be ob- 

 tained from him more reliably than 

 from the bee-keepers direct. 



Mr. Bull — In Iowa you can go in all 

 directions, while Wisconsin has noth- 

 ing much to the north or east. 



Take southern Indiana or something 

 like that, it would not be so important. 

 We would like to have as large a per 

 cent of the bee-keepers as we can get 

 but we have to go as far as we can 

 with the money we have. 



Mr. Ulman^My idea would be to go 

 as far as our means would allow, and 

 then try to do a little co-operative 

 work with the secretaries of the As- 

 sociations, and they should be to a 

 large extent in touch with the situation 

 in their locality and in the state, and 

 they ought to be able to give you some - 

 pretty valuable data on the subject. 



Mr. Roehrs — It seems to be all right 

 as to our neighboring states and places, 

 but is it not a fact that a big amount of 

 honey out west is dumped into the 

 Chicago market? 



Mr. Bull — That is true but has abso- 

 lutely no bearing on the prices we are 

 selling to the consumer. 



