ILLINOIS STATE BEE-KEEPERS' ASSOCIATION 



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Mr. Kildow — There are three al- 

 ready, now. 



Mr. Werner — Mr. President, I would 

 like to see one as near to Springfield 

 as possible because I am so far south 

 there is no one interested down there 

 but myself, and if we could get a good 

 meeting, at Mr. Stone's place this sum- 

 mer, I would have a chance to' meet. 



Pres. Baxter — You have heard the 

 motion— What is your further pleas- 

 ure? Are you ready for the question? 

 All those in favor of the motion, 

 sigrnify it by saying aye — 



Motion carried. 



Pres. Baxter — If you want your 

 President to take charge of these 

 meetings he is willing to do so with- 

 out any compensation; how about his 

 expenses attending these meetings, is 

 that understood? 



Mr. Moore — That is understood to 

 be a part of the Association expense; 

 and when he calls on any one their 

 expenses are to be paid out of the As- 

 sociation fund. 



Pres. Baxter — We will listen to Mr. 

 Gates' paper on: "Interests and 

 Workings of the National Associa- 

 tion." 



See Dr. Gates' picture as President 

 of National — back part of book. 



INTERESTS AND WORKINGS OF 

 THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION. 



(Dr. Burton N. Gates, President National 



Bee-Keepers' Association, Amherst, 

 Mass.) 



Dr. Gates — I have no paper. Will 

 you please give me some information 

 as to what you desire? As I have just 

 said — I have no remorks or com- 

 ments to make unless you have ques- 

 tions to ask me. Just what is it you 

 would like? I am a Yankee in that 

 respect. 



Pres. Baxter — We would like to 

 know how the Association has been 

 going on in the past year or two. 



Dr. Gates — I think you know as well 

 as I do. 



Pres. Baxter — We would like to know 

 how the Association is run, what 

 benefit the National is to the State 

 Associations. 



Dr. Gates — I always figure that a 

 man gets benefit out of any Associa- 

 tion he joins only in so far as he puts 

 himself into that Association. 



Mr. Stone — I would like to ask Mr. 

 Gates if any individual member of the 



National is responsible for any part of 

 the indebtedness of the National. 



Dr. Gates — Not being a lawyer, I 

 cannot answer that question. 



Mr. Moore — Mr. Chairman: In re- 

 gard to that question you will find the 

 National Association has no standing 

 in law. They are not incorporated; 

 if we were incorporated under the 

 law, then they could come on to the 

 Association as a body or individually 

 foi debts, but under the present stand- 

 ing there is nobody responsible for the 

 debts of the Association except those 

 that contracted that debt. 



The debt against the Review is only 

 one that can be held against those 

 Directors who made the deal. They 

 cannot hold anybody else for it except 

 those Directors. 



Pres. Baxter — What other questions 

 do you wish to ask, Mr. Gates? 



Dr. Gates — I am perfectly willing to 

 say, Mr. President, I don't care to ag- 

 gravate a discussion here. It cannot 

 end in any great profit for the Na- 

 tional, and moreover I cannot see that 

 it will materially benefit you, but if 

 theer are specific questions coming to 

 mind I will try to explain the situa- 

 tion. Remarks in full explanation of 

 the St. Louis meeting were made this 

 morning and you are all acquainted 

 with that. 



Mr. Moore — Mr. Chairman, as I took 

 quite an active part in the St. Louis 

 meeting, I can perhaps give a little 

 light on the subject. The National has 

 no money. You all know, or, if you 

 have read the Constitution and By- 

 Laws that it is proposed to be 

 adopted by the National, you will see 

 that it is provided there for member- 

 ship fee. If we stay with the Na- 

 tional as an afl!iliated body and elect 

 a delegate to the Denver meeting and 

 this Constitution and By-Laws are 

 adopted, there will be some fees com- 

 ing in that can be used for the pur- 

 pose of incorporation; and this will 

 give us a legal status; the National 

 will be a legal body, and the only way 

 that can be done is for us to stay with 

 it. 



Mr. Kildow— I understand there is a 

 resolution for the Directors to sell this 

 Review. 



Mr. Moore — The Committee on Pub- 

 licity, of which I was Chairman, re- 

 ported that it would be for the best 

 interests to dispose of the Review at 



