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air bubbles, I think. Let that honey 

 cool down to probably blood heat be- 

 fore you fill those cans and you will 

 not have that trouble. 



Have your tank set up 18 inches 

 from the floor on a stand exactly 

 underneath. I take an ordinary 

 wrench" and screw the cap down tight 

 and they are absolutely air tight; the 

 cans will not burst. 



You can have that can full of gran- 

 ulated honey and can melt that honey 

 as hot as you can hold those cans and 

 it will not burst. 



Mr. Burnett — At times have you dis- 

 colored your honey? 



Mr. Bull — Not unless you heat it too 

 high. 



Mr. Burnett — When you have an 

 iron plate, do you have the honey im- 

 mediately under that plate and have 

 the tank raised on that? 



Mr. Bull — The can is, I think, about 

 10% inches across; that leaves you a 

 foot space through the center of the 

 tank. 



Mr. Burnett — He does not allow the 

 heat to touch his cans directly. 



Mr. Bull — That would not do at all, 

 no. -I can regulate those burners and 

 the honey will be, when I come back, 

 within 2 degrees of where I want it; 

 I start slow heat. 



Mr. Bull — The heat is set so that it 

 v/ill start and finish at the same heat. 

 If you are in a hurry you can turn your 

 heat high to start with and gradually 

 reduce the flame. I find I can get the 

 same results by running one straight 

 heat from start to finish. 



Question — Why is the McEvoV 

 method recommended in preference to 

 the Baldridge treatment of foul brood? 

 I would like to hear from those who 

 have used both methods. 



Mr. Kildow — I can see no difference 

 only this: Wth the McEvoy treat- 

 ment, you are done with it in a few 

 minutes — as a rule; while with the 

 Baldridge plan it takes about 21 days. 

 One treatment is just as good as the 

 other; I see only the difference in 

 time; I have tried both of them. 



Mr. Bull — Is not one difficulty with 

 the Baldridge treatment — taking 

 chances on the bees getting through if 

 you happen to leave a space? One ad- 

 vantage of the McEvoy treatment over 

 the others, if you have several yards, 

 you can keep everything in one place. 

 As fast as you treat a colony, take the 

 colony that is healthy away. Do not 



give them a chance to rob. I do not 

 care how careful you are or how good 

 a hive you have, you are going to 

 leave a hole to crawl through. 



Mr. Kildow — In the Baldridge plan 

 if you have hives in good order you 

 save practically all the brood, so that 

 helps to balance the matter of time. 



Mr. Bull— I might say I save that 

 brood — when I shake several colonies 

 and stack the brood up and let it 

 hatch. 



Whenever you shake a colony of bees 

 out of there into a new hive in a yard, 

 that has the disease, take the colony 

 away. 



Mr. Kildow — Everybody cannot take 

 theirs away. 



Mr Bull— That is true but if you have 

 any amount of bees you have to have 

 some outyards. 



Question — Which disease is the most 

 to be feared, European or American ? 



Pres. Kannenberg — I think that was > 

 pretty well thrashed out by Mr. France 

 when he spoke of foul brood. 



Mr. Hawkins — I would like to ask a 

 question. If any one has had ex- 

 perience with European foul brood 

 where you re-queen to cure it, if the 

 queen taken from the diseased colony 

 is put in a colony that is free from 

 disease, will it appear by that trans- 

 mission ? 



Mr, Dadant— We had a little ex- 

 perience in one yard this year with 

 European. It was the first we had and 

 we thought we would try experiments 

 and that was one of the experiments 

 we tried. 



Mr. Kildow said we were taking a 

 long chance and we tried about six 

 queens, and they were Italian queens. 

 We took them from colonies that had 

 the disease bad and put them in either 

 queenless colonies or colonies that had 

 killed the queen a short time before, 

 and in every case the colonies developed 

 European foul brood, and not one of 

 the queens we took from one of our 

 yards when there was no disease of 

 any kind, either European or American, 

 and put it in the queenless colony did 

 that colony develop foul brood. We 

 killed her as soon as we found it de- 

 veloped and put in another queen and 

 the disease disappeared. In about six 

 trials it developed in each case. 



A member — I would like to ask Mr. 

 Kildow if it is necessary to re-queen 

 when treating for American foul brood. 



