ILLINOIS STATE BEE-KEEPERS' ASSOCIATION 



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wrong either with the man or the 

 bees, for down our way the queen 

 never goes up in the super and during 

 the honey flow we never use a bee- 

 escape. We have a market for comb 

 honey and don't run lor extracted. 

 During the honey flow we never use 

 a bee-escape. We take off the super, 

 put the cover in place and put the 

 super on top of the cover, and the 

 bees are not cross and we work with- 

 out a veil or smoke; as a rule nearly 

 every bee is down in the hive below. 



I would not do that during a dearth. 

 We have taken thirty or forty supers 

 at a time, put every super on top and 

 in the morning every super was nearly 

 cleared of bees. 



Mr. Stone — Mr. Duby has stolen my 

 process. I put my supers in a box, 

 as many as you want to, and then 

 put a cover on that, with holes with 

 escapes in them, and the bees are all 

 out the next morning, unless there is 

 a queen in there; then the bees won't 

 leave. 



Mr. Duby— We did that this fall. 



Mr. Baxter — I acknowledge I am be- 

 hind the times so far as that part of 

 the business is concerned. I believe in 

 bee-escapes, and I am going to use 

 them. Of course it depends upon cir- 

 cumstances when they should be used. 

 I believe it is a saving of time and 

 requires less help, even if you have 

 to go the day before to the out apiary 

 to put on the bee-escapes; in the 

 end you save time and money by put- 

 ting them on if you are sure you are 

 going to extract the following day or 

 the day after, provided the weather 

 remains in condition to handle the 

 honey. Late in the fall I would not 

 advocate it. 



Question — Is it the presence of the 

 pollen above that causes the queen to 

 go there, or the queen above that in- 

 duces the pollen there? 



Pres. Dadant — I will p.sk Mr. Stone 

 to .answer .that. question. 



Mr. Stone — Mr. Coppin brought that 

 idea up; he said that sometimes the 

 bees put the pollen up in the upper 

 part, and I never thought they did 

 unless there was a queen there. 



Pres. Dadant — If Illinois people can- 

 not answer that, maybe a Michigan 

 man can. 



Which one causes the other? 



The queen would cause the pollen 

 to be brought up if she was up there, 

 would she net.? 



Mr. Tyrrell — Gertainly if .tiie queen 

 was up there; but— wh^her ' there 

 would ever be pollen without the queen, 

 is another question. I think any one 

 will agree that if the queen goes in 

 to the sections, the bees will bring 

 pollen in there to take care of the 

 brood. 



Pres. Dadant — You don't believe 

 that the queen cares whether there 

 is pollen there or not? 



Mr. Tj-rrell — I would not say so. 



Mr. Duby — I have seen pollen in the 

 supers and no larvae. 



Pres. Dadant — ^How much, though? 



Mr, Duby — Not much. 



Mr. Moore — That is the thing I was- 

 going to remark. 



Mr. Coppin — ^I find the queen in 

 the supers once in a while and no 

 brood there either. She seems to go 

 to take a survey around. 



Pres. Dadant — Don't you think that 

 she is looking for drone cells? 



Mr. Coppin — I think so. 



Mr. Vaughn — When I was producing 

 comb honey last year, there was a 

 little pollen put into the sections. At 

 that time the queen was crowding the 

 brood chamber with her egg laying 

 and the bees gathering much pollen 

 wanted some place to store it; it was 

 put in the sections. I don't think the 

 queen going up there would draw it 

 there. 



Question — How do you manage to 

 extract when the weather gets cold 

 before you have done extracting? 



Mr. Gray — Warm it up after taking 

 it off. 



Mr. Baxter — I started out five tirties 

 to extract last fall; each time I got 

 part way to the apiary and it got cold, 

 and I went back home; so finally I 

 went out there and took my supers 

 off, brought them home, made a fire 

 in the honey house and let them warm 

 up, and then extracted. 



Mr. Stone — ^What if it did not warm 

 up? 



Mr. Baxter — I put a fire in the stove 

 and got the room up to 70 degrees 

 heat. 



Mr. Stone — Mighty uncomfortable to 

 work in there about that time. 



Br: Baxter — Oh, no. 



Mr. Vaughn — ^Wh«n the room is 

 heated to that temperature, it takes 

 some time for honey to cool off; you 

 can raise the windows and ventilate. 

 It only takes four or five hours to heat 

 the room up with a coal stove. I got 



