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to read other Journals and will not give 

 Lhem up for any other. 



Yet if I have the correct object sought 

 to be accomplished by having an official 

 Jouma!, it is intended that official matter 

 be published in that particular Journal 

 without furnishing such matter to any 

 other Journal. 



Now if there is any benefit to be de- 

 rived from such official reports, all who 

 are not readers of the Review are left out 

 in the cold. 



My impression is that the Secretary 

 of the Nactional Bee-Keepers' Associa- 

 tion should furnish all our standard Bee 

 Journals with a copy of all matter that 

 the official Journal is reouired or expected 

 to print. 



Please let it be understood that while 

 I do not wish to agitate a question that 

 will stir up discord among bee-keepers, 

 I at the same time do not wish to see a 

 measure adopted by the National Bee- 

 Keepers' Association in the interest of 

 the few to the exclusion of the many, nor 

 in the interest of one particular periodical 

 to the detriment of other bee periodicals. 



Now. friend Stone, if this letter is 

 worth bringing to the notice of your State 

 Association I hope you will call atten- 

 tion to it, otherwise cast it aside. 



Most sincerely yours, 



G. BOHRER." 



Mr. Stone — If Dr. Bohrer could have 

 heard friend Tyrrell's explanation, I 

 believe he would have cancelled his 

 letter. 



Mr. Tyrrell — I would say, in reply to 

 that letter, that, from the understand- 

 ing that the gentleman has, his objec- 

 tions are well taken, and you will 

 notice that he is under the impression 

 that somebody else still owns the Re- 

 view, and it does not belong to the Na- 

 tional. 



It is not understood that the Review 

 isi to supplant any other journal, but a 

 great many things can be furnished 

 the members of the National, through 

 its paper, that cannot be given other 

 journals. I would personally like to 

 see the Review leave the field of other 

 journals and be the offlcial organ of the 

 National. 



We have in the August Review one 

 page devoted to prices for members on 

 tin and glass packages. I don't think 

 any other journal would give us space 

 for that information. There is a full 

 page for the crop report. I doubt 

 whether they would want to do that, 

 and you can't blam-e them, but we 

 ought to get that information to our 

 members'. If we attempted to do this 

 ■work, through circulars, it would cost 

 lots of money; we can get it through 

 the paper more cheaply, and better. 



Mr. Kildow — It is not free, is it? 

 We have to pay one dollar for It. 



Mr. Tyrrell — You are getting the Re- 

 view in return for the one dollar you 

 pay for membership; the postal laws 

 make it come in as a subscription, but 

 strictly speaking it is not more than 

 you paid before. 



Mr. Stone — You are really only pay- 

 ing fifty cents — you pay one dollar to 

 us but we only keep fifty cents. 



Mr. Baxter — ^Why do the postal 

 authorities require this to come in as 

 a subscription? 



Mr. Tyrrell — I don't know. 



Mr. Baxter — There are hundreds of 

 thousands of Woodmen in the United 

 States and each one gets the paper 

 free. 



Mr. Tyrrell — They are entered under 

 fraternal publications. We have no 

 lodge system. If we could come in as 

 a scientific or professional society we 

 could do it, but as it is now we have 

 to maintain that subscription list. 



Mr. Stone — The postal laws do not 

 allow any paper to be given free. 



Mr. Tyrrell — Excepting fraternal, 

 religious, strictly scientific, etc. But 

 until last May, I think it was, the fra- 

 ternal paper did not have the right to 

 carry advertising. 



Now they have pass'ed a resolution 

 where a fraternal paper can carry ad- 

 vertising. 



WTien the delegates of the National 

 get together, they may feel that the 

 publishing of an official paper is a mis- 

 take. If this is the opinion of the 

 delegates, Vou will not find any one 

 more willing to abide by the decision 

 than I. I have the interest of this as- 

 sociation at heart, to the extent that 

 I would sacrifice a good deal, and I do, 

 for that matter, right now — but that is 

 another story. If your delegates think 

 that this is not the thing to do, to have 

 the Review as an official organ of the 

 National, I shall do all I can to 

 straighten out things, so that they will 

 not have to continue its publication; 

 that'" is saying quite a little. 



Pres. I>adant — We would like to have 

 you inquire of Mr. Tyrrell any ques- 

 tions that may suggest "themselves', to 

 clear your minds. 



I think we are all in good faith, and 

 I don't think there will be any trouble. 



Mr. "Vaughn — Does it cost one dollar 

 and a half to belong to both associa- 

 tions and get the paper? 



Mr. Tyrrell — One dollar and a half 

 to belong to both, including the Re- 

 view. 



