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be able, in time, 'to take care of its 

 delegates. It cannot do it now; but we 

 don't know what this thing will lead 

 to hereafter; we don't know into how 

 large an organization this National will 

 develop. 



Mr. Duby-f— How about a fifty cent 

 subscription to the Review — would 

 that make it so that the Review is self- 

 supporting? • 



Mr. Tyrrell — I believe I can see the 

 point Mr. Duby has in mind. I have 

 thrashed the thing out for myself. The 

 idea is to make a certain part for mem- 

 bership and a paid for subscription; 

 then you have a division of fees at the 

 National Office, and they are bad things 

 to explain to prospective members. We 

 can change the laws, if we find we 

 have to — and have a division of fees. 



If I could take each one of you and 

 set you down at my desk for two 

 weeks' time, and let you read the cor- 

 respondence that comes" in, you would 

 be very enthusiastic for the future 

 of this organization. 



Mr. Baxter — I believe the principle 

 is good, I have no doubt if it were con- 

 scientiously carried out it would result 

 in great benefit to the Bee-Keepers of 

 the United States. 



I am an American citizen and I be- 

 lieve in democracy and liberty, and I 

 believe in representative Government, 

 but only so far as it is controlled by 

 the Initiative, Referendum and Recall. 



I know these ofiicial organs have 

 been a menace to fraternal orders 

 publishing them, and in some instances 

 they have been of immense good to 

 the men in charge. 



Take the Modern Woodmen, for in- 

 stance: They have built up a kingdom, 

 an aristocracy which divides the whole 

 membership. 



Now ought this not to be hedged in 

 In some way so that the members will 

 have it working out to their individual 

 advantage, and there be a means of 

 caling a stop and bringing it back into 

 the true course that was intended for 

 it to pursue, if necessary? 



Mr. Tyrrell — These points are well 

 taken. 



I can see no reason why at any 

 time this publication shoul become a 

 menace to the Society. The delegates, 

 who are your representatives, could 

 take steps to sell the publication to 

 a disinterested party or do away with 

 it. 

 There is nothing there to 'perpetuate 



it only until such time as it is doing 

 good for you. 



Pres, I>adant — Mr. France, who has 

 done such faithful work as General 

 Manager of the National, is with us, 

 and we would like to hear from Mr. 

 France. 



Mr. France — I don't believe I better 

 take your time. 



Pres. Badant — We want to hear from 

 you. 



I am sorry Mr. France will not speak. 

 I feel that this thing which we are 

 doing is a new thing. We imay make a 

 failure. I believe if we are in earnest 

 we should give it a fair trial. We are 

 in an era of change, an era of Associa- 

 tions. I, for one, am willing to give it 

 a fair trial; but I hope that every one 

 who has anything to ask will spring 

 the question now. 



A member — Do you know of an as- 

 sociation that has done more real good 

 for its membership than the Modern 

 Woodmen of America. It has given 

 protection to its members at a low 

 cost, it has been one of the means 

 of creating an interest in the Wood- 

 men; informing its members of what 

 is being done, and one of the means 

 of building up the Society; and do you 

 know of a Society of any magnitude 

 that is not the mouthpiece of the offi- 

 cers through its publication? 



Mr. Stone — Mr. President and every- 

 body who was here knew just the stan.l 

 I took last year. I was opposed to 

 every feature of it, and I was brought 

 over just by the correspondence I have 

 had with Mr. Tyrrell. I saw what was 

 being done, and when fee after fee 

 would come from Mr. Tyrrell to me for 

 fifty cents per member, and that fee 

 went into our association, and from 

 men whom we never reached but who 

 could not get into that Association 

 without joining ours, too, and when I 

 saw the working of things and under- 

 stood it just as he has given it to 

 us to understand, I didn't see how we 

 could get along without it. 



If I pay him one dollar and a half, 

 I am not bound to anything, I won't 

 be hurt if it goes down, and I may be 

 greatly benefited if it is a success. 



Just look at the benefits I receive: 

 They give me a membership in the 

 National, the Bee-Keepers' Review — 

 and my membership in this Association, 

 which gives me the reports of this 

 meeting, and the Chicago Northwest- 

 ern, and if any of these Branch Socie- 



