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and Branch benefits as well as getting 

 the Review. 



Mr. Baxter — I take exception to that 

 ruling that you will become a member 

 of the National and State Society. It 

 is contrary to law. You cannot have 

 two sets of members — one at one dol- 

 lar and one at one dollar and a half. 



Mr. Tyrrell — You will not, Mr. Bax- 

 ter. 



One is a membership fee and the other 

 is subscription. 



Mr. Baxter — Do you mean a mem- 

 bership fee of fifty cents is all that you 

 require? 



Mr. Tyrrell — That is true. 



Mr. Baxter — Last fall when we met 

 here Vi-e were notified that according 

 to the Constitution of the National we 

 had to pay one dollar and a half, a 

 year, and at that time the publishing 

 ond taking over of the Bee-Keepers' 

 Review was not contemplated. 



Mr. Tyrrell — That is the idea. 



Mr. Baxter — ^By whom has it been 

 changed ? 



Mr. Tyrrell — By the Directors in a 

 resolution. The Constitution did not 

 back them up in that, but the Constitu- 

 tion is made for the benefit of the 

 Association and not as an obstacle, and 

 we wanted to give the member the 

 Review, for one dollar and a half; we 

 wanted to give him something that 

 he could see for his dollar, — something 

 which he did not have in the past. 



A member — And if he pays but one 

 dollar he gets all the benefits of the 

 National except the subscription to 

 the Review? 



Mr. Tyrrell — We don't recognize him 

 at the office, so far as keeping his 

 name on the list, to recefve the benefits 

 offered by the Association; we cannot 

 do the same by him as though he were 

 in, heart and soul. 



Mr. Baxter — You cannot make an ex- 

 ception in that regard; if I pay you one 

 dollar and am in trouble, you have 

 got to help me as much as you do the 

 member who pays you one dollar and 

 a half. 



Mr. Tyrrell — Sure. 



Pres. Dadant — If you pay your dol- 

 lar, with the understanding that you 

 are not to be a member of the Na- 

 tional, as it was stated here yesterday, 

 I would like to know where your rights 

 come in; you join the State Associa- 

 tion and pay one dollar, but you are 

 not to get the privileges of the Na- 

 tional. 



Mr. Baxter— Mr. Tyrrell states you 

 have all the privileges of the National. 



Pres. Dadant — Yes, he is giving them, 

 but you have not right to them if you 

 are not willing to pay the dollar and a 

 half. 



Mr. Vaughn — They cannot be ex- 

 pected to help us if we don't help them 

 (the National). 



What was not quite clear in my 

 mind: I was a member of both the 

 State and the National, and I did not 

 get the Review. 



But now I want to pay my dues for 

 both the State and the National and 

 get this paper, from now on. 



Mr. Witherow — I think the argument 

 centers entirely around the fifty cents 

 — and that Journal is worth fifty cents, 

 and you run the risk of getting in- 

 creased advantages that can be given 

 from time to time by the National. 



Mr. Vaughn — I think it is the best 

 thing that ever came across the pike. 



Pres. Dadant — I want to say some- 

 thing about the postal laws. 



All of you probably know we took 

 over the American Bee Journal in 

 April, and I have some evidences of 

 the government of the Post Office De- 

 partment in regard to second class 

 matter. The American Bee Journal was 

 in existence long before second class 

 matter existed. At that time we had 

 to pay out heavy postage on our news- 

 papers; now it is only a cent a pound. 



When I took over the paper, I had 

 to put in an application, and they had 

 rules to follow, and questions to 

 answer, to many of which I could not 

 reply. I did not want to swear to a 

 lie; and was told to answer ,to the 

 best of my knowledge. 



I showed our subscription list 

 and subscription letters i^eceived 

 and we were accepted: but if you 

 could see the numbers of questions 

 asked, you would understand that 

 a new magazine, or a magazine 

 changing hands, and changing the 

 method of receiving subscriptions, 

 would be very much handicapped by 

 the requirements made under the pos- 

 tal laws. 



Mr. Baxter — If there is nothing more 

 on this qliestion, we have a resoultion 

 to offer. 



Pres. Dadant — ^Is there any one else 

 who wishes to ask questions upon the 

 National? We want to satisfy every- 

 body. 



Pres. Dadant — Do you wish to do 



