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ILLINOIS STATE BEE-KEEPERS' ASSOCIATION 



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conventions held in the city; it is, 

 however, for you to decide whether you 

 wish it that way. 



Mr, Stone — The greatest inconveni- 

 ence with the secretary is postponing 

 until after the fair the giving of notices 

 of our meeting; the notice of this meet- 

 ing should go in the month's paper be- 

 fore the convention came off; this year, 

 it being earlier than com'mon, Mr. 

 Dadant had to remind me of the notice 

 we were going to put in the Bee 

 /Journal, Mr. Tyrrell didn't happen to 

 be informed. He thought I would 

 notify them, so he did not have any 

 notice, and it was just because it had 

 been put off till after our busy time 

 of the fair. 



Pres. Dadant — What is your sugges- 

 tion? 



Mr. Moore — I made a strong flght a 

 5"ear ago to have it at an earlier date; 

 any time between the fifteenth of Oc- 

 tober and the last of the month, rather 

 than in November, and I ' think that 

 along the latter part of October would 

 be the best for the majority of bee- 

 keepers. It is a more pleasant season 

 of the year to travel and visit. 



Mr. Stone — M:;. Bowen is on the pro- 

 gram. Mr. Bowen, of Jacksonville, is not 

 here because he has a big apple crop, 

 and if we had as big an apple crop as 

 we have some years, I could not be here 

 if you paid me twenty -five dollars a 

 day. 



Mr. Baxter — I would suggest the first 

 or second week in November as the 

 latest or earliest dates. 



Mr. Tyrrell — Pardon me, but I can't 

 help notice the difference of argument 

 here and in Michigan. 



Last year we had the convention, 

 in November, I believe; and we had a 

 lot of opposition because our conven- 

 tion was too early. This year it is held 

 in December. 



A good many bee-keepers we found 

 had not finished getting their bees 

 packed for winter; and as I saw these 

 great corn fields — the thought; came to 

 me — How many bee-keepers had corn 

 fields they would have to leave to go 

 to conventions. Conditions are different 

 here from Michigan. 



Mr. Moore moves to leave the 

 matter with the Executive Committee. 



Motion seconded and carried. 



Pres. Dadant — ^Tou have been a very 

 well behaved meeting. "We had one 

 motion on which you voted both ways; 

 every other vote was unanimous. 



Mr. Stone — I make a motion that we 

 offer a permium or a reward of five, 

 four, three and two dollars to the 

 writers of papers to be read at this 

 convention, without any arguments or 

 criticisms on the papers; each to be 

 read by the writers of the papers, and 

 after they are all read, then decide 

 which is first, and so on, by vote of the 

 members; according to the merit of 

 the paper. I believe we can get a pro- 

 gram in no better way. 



Pres. Dadant — That is Wisconsin's 

 way; the only difference being that 

 judges are appointed. 



Mr. Stone — I would not like to be a 

 judge. It is very embarrassing for a 

 man who judges; it might create hard 

 feeling, and if it is left with the as- 

 sociation to vote upon it, the members 

 cannot complain about anybody, 



Mr. Baxter — I move, in addition, that 

 the vote be by ballot. 



Pres. Dadant — It would have to be. 



Mr. Duby— There ought to be a con- 

 dition as to the length of the article, 

 nor more than two hundred words. 



Pres. Dadant — Two hundred words 

 would be very short. 



Mr. Stone — Limit them to five hun- 

 dred words. 



Mr. Kildow — Will the finances stand 

 that? 



Pres. Dadant— That premium can be 

 given from, the State fund. 



Mr. Stone — That is very plainly for 

 the good of the convention. 



Mr. Dubj^ — None of us older men 

 would care to write an essay. This 

 should be left to our children. I have 

 a boy and I would be willing to bring 

 him; it would interest my boy on the 

 question, and I would naturally help 

 him, and he would take an interest; 

 that might be the stepping stone for 

 him later on. 



I have in view to interest the 

 younger folks. I am surprised that we 

 did not have more younger men and 

 women here. 



Pres. Dadant — Tou don't mean to 

 suggest that we want essays from chil- 

 dren? 



A member — Yes, young men, fifteen 

 or twenty. 



Mr. Baxter — We want essays from 

 practical bee-keepers. 



I move an amendment to the motion; 

 that it be limited to not over five hun- 

 dred words. 



Mr. Witherow — ^It is not always the 

 longest story that is best. 



