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■wrho get into financial difficulty, from a 

 legal standpoint. 



I can go down there and use my best 

 judg^ment, and my own little personal 

 ideas on these suhjects and others that 

 may be presented; but I would rather, 

 when I g"o as a representative of this 

 convention, to represent this convention 

 than to go down there and put in the 

 narrow ideas of my own. 



I think it is up to the convention to 

 tell me -what their pleasure is in re- 

 gard to these thing's before I go, and I 

 can then very much the better represent 

 this Association when I go to the 

 National convention. 



Mr. Dadant — ^I might say that if Mr. 

 Cavanagh will write down a - list of 

 questions that he is supposed to answer 

 before the National convention, we 

 might put them to a vote. 



"How many in favor of co-operative 

 selling and co-operative buying," and so 

 on, and if we put it to a vote, he will 

 'get an idea of what the sentiment of 

 the convention is. While he is doing 

 this, we wil proceed with the other 

 questions we have here. 



Young Bees Wingless. 



"What is the cause of j'oung bees be- 

 ing wingless?" 



Mr. Pyles — There are a good many 

 things that we have been taught from 

 time to time as the cause: You take it 

 in humanity; that is the only w-ay we 

 can get a practical application. Some 

 families are m.ore or less deformed; 

 there is a weakness somewhere which is 

 the cause of it; it is just a w'eakness, 

 in my judgment in the queen, where 

 there would be one wing gone in some 

 of the bees; I think it is on account of 

 a weakness in the queen; the best thing 

 to do in such an instanice would be to 

 put "your thum.b and firmer across their 

 head and give them a gentle squeeze; 

 I think that would be the remedy. 



Mr. Lyman — I had one queen that 

 for tAVO years produced a large propor- 

 tion of bees that had no eyes; they 

 could not fly more than two feet. 



A member — I had two hives that 

 were wingless; I killed the queen and 

 put a new queen in the hive and it ^^Tas 

 the same ; one would have one wing and 

 another would not; and I couM not 

 stop it. 



Pres. Huffman — It it not barely pos- 

 sible that incubation of brood had any- 

 thing to do with it, the same as a 



chicken? Might that not cause that in 

 this instance? 



Mr. Pyles — That does not leave ofC 

 the legs and wings off of chickens'. We 

 have got to get to a practical applica- 

 tion. The Jew is perhaps the closest 

 inbred race of people there is, and yet 

 their characteristics are positive, and 

 you don't see many Jews in the poor- 

 house; most of them are able to make 

 a living; they have the faculty. If 

 you inbreed along the lines, j-ou don't 

 inbreed only weakness, but strength; 

 and along poultry lines, men who have 

 inbred are the men that have estab- 

 lished the different breeds of poultry. 

 It must be carried on by some one who 

 is thinking all the time. That is my 

 opinion of the matter. Inbreeding does 

 not hurt if carried on right. 



Mr. Dadant told me that he had 

 visited with Mr. Valentine one winter; 

 he had Albino bees, and they had been 

 inbred so closely for color, that they 

 had great white drones without eyes. 

 It can be carried too far; to be a good 

 breeder, you must be thorough. » 



Pres. Huffman — There is something 

 siingular in regard to this gentleman's 

 bees being wingless. 



Yellow Sweet Clover — A Noxious 

 Weed? 



"Is there any good reason why yellow 

 sweet clover should be classed as a 

 noxious weed?" 



Pres. Huffman — I don't think we 

 should consider any clover as a noxious 

 weed. 



Mr. Kannenberg — I think only ignor- 

 ant people would class it as a noxious 

 weed. 



Pres. Huffman — I don't think that 

 there is any one — only those who do 

 not know what the clover plant is to 

 the soil who would so class it; when 

 they study it, and realize what good 

 it is to them, they would not consider 

 it a noxious weed; I am sure of this. 



Mr. Baldridge — Yellow sweet clover 

 wasi placed by the side of yellow this- 

 tles as a noxious' weed at the land show 

 that was here in Chicago only a short 

 time ago. 



Pres. Huffman — ^We had the same 

 law in our State until Mr. N. E. France 

 got after it and got it off the list, and 

 now they all want to raise it and sow 

 it for pasture. 



Pres. Huffman — I was told a few 

 years ago while we had this law in 

 AYisconsin, when it was classed as a 



