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whether it was there or not. You cannot 

 tell when it is going to break out. 



The President — Not in a year even. 



A Member — That was what I was going 

 to say. You cannot rely on the inspector's 

 word any more than the bee-keeper's, 

 because he would net know himself. He 

 could not swear positively that the disease 

 is cleaned up. I got a wire from a bee- 

 keeper some time ago that he had treated 

 his bees for foul brood and the inspector 

 had been there after and inspected the bees 

 and stated that they were all right, but 

 he said, "I have to transfer them again." 



The President — It depends upon whether 

 it is European foul brood or American 

 foul brood? 



A Member — They treated it for what it 

 wa?, for American foul brood and he trans- 

 ferred them and the inspector reported, 

 "All right." He thought it was all right 

 himself. So it is difficult to tell whether it 

 is cleaned up. 



Mr. Kildow — The inspectors have rather 

 a hard row to hoe. If you get into the 

 business once yourself, you will probably 

 see it. You might visit a yard two or 

 three times a year maybe in the fall, saj' 

 in September, foul brood might break out 

 there and then they give this inspector 

 Jesse because he did not attend to his 

 business. You have got to use j^our 

 judgment the best you can and trust to 

 luck. 



The Secretary — I do not think there 

 are any two sides to this question You 

 have either got to increase the appropria- 

 tion or stop. Whenever you try to get 

 one neighbor to go to another neighbor to 

 see whether he has cleaned up, he is 

 going to say, "Who are you to judge over 

 me?" It would not do at all in anj' 

 neighborhood that I ever saw. And 

 when any foul brood comes into a 

 neighborhood — just to illustrate — some of 

 the neighbors started a story that /.-'(.■>• 

 young man was called on to go to our 

 cellar to see how much fruit we had on 

 hand. The neighbor said, "Well, he 

 don't dare to come to my cellar." They 

 would not trust him in their cellar and I 

 guess that was just a farce, I do not sup- 

 pose it was ever authorized by the Gov- 

 ernment, but it just shows how people 

 think of any one that has received any 

 appointment whatever. They want to 

 know the source from which the appoint- 

 ment came and then they are not satisfied. 

 If it is a neighbor, they want to know how 

 he learned so much more than they know. 

 They think they know just as much as 

 he does and nine times out of ten they are 

 right. I do not believe it will work. You 



want to increase the appropriation or keep 

 still. 



The President — People may not be the 

 same all over, but in our neighborhood a 

 number of bee-keepers requested Mr. Kil- 

 dow to come over and see if they had any 

 foul brood and I think if a man is sincere 

 in wanting to clean up foul brood, I think 

 he will be glad to have his neighbor, 

 whether he knows anything or not, come 

 in and inspect his bees, because two heads 

 are better than one. 



Mr. Bowen— I should like to ask Mr. 

 Kildow if he personally superintends the 

 treatment of the apiary he goes to? 



Mr. Kildow — Sometimes we treat a 

 colonj", other times we give them the in- 

 structions. 



Mr. Bowen — That is the important 

 part of it. Very often they do not know 

 anj'thing about the business, do not know 

 how to attend to it themselves. In many 

 cases, where they only have a few bees, 

 thej' do not care how the neighborhood 

 suffers, they do not care to go to the 

 expense themselves of cleaning up the 

 foul brood and I think the neighbors often 

 would be glad to help them if they were 

 authorized to do so. I know of a case, 

 last summer, where another party and I 

 went and helped a man to go through' his 

 bees, got them in good shape. Another 

 party in the same place, I do not believe he 

 would have allowed us on the place if we 

 wanted to go in. That i? what we have to 

 contend with. Yet the other party had the 

 disease worse than the party that we 

 helped. 



The President — In that case I would send 

 the inspector out there. 



Mr. Kildow — I cannot authorize any- 

 body to go in as deputy. I have no power 

 at all. If the parties will allow a neighbor 

 to come in and talk to him, explain to 

 him, all well and good. It is none of my 

 business. One trouble is, the bee-keeping 

 neighbors do not mingle enough with each 

 other and exchange ideas enough. They 

 seem to be selfish, the small fellows think 

 the other fellow wants to get a little the 

 best of them. If they would be more 

 social, we would get along lots better. 



Mr. Bowen — One of the parties I had 

 reference to said, "It is just a little job 

 fixed up with the bee men to have the in- 

 spector come around and inspect bees. He 

 simply wants a job." 



The Secretary — Mr. Kildow, cannot you 

 refer them to the treatment that we give 

 in our report? 



Mr. Kildow — We refer them to that, or 

 we give them treatment. 



