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My question is, what changes are needed to help Federal agencies 

 with water control or water resource programs to meet the President's 

 objective? 



Secretary FREEMAN. I think this question might go to Mr. Paul 

 because you probably had in mind some of the structures that are 

 larger than those with which some of the rest of us are involved. 



Mr. PAUL. This is a serious question that deserves a better answer 

 than I am able to give it. This is a matter for the Corps of Engineers, 

 of course, in their primary responsibility in the civil functions pro- 

 grams. 



All I can say is that we will bend every effort within our author- 

 ities to meet the President's objectives. 



Secretary FREEMAN. May I say that Mr. Paul has evidenced his 

 dedication to these principles again and again on the Council, and 

 I don't think that there is a better or more sensitive conservationist 

 in the country than the Secretary of Defense, Mr. McNamara. I am 

 sure they will be most sensitive to this. 



Mr. WAGNER. We build some rather large projects in the Ten- 

 nessee Valley, too. 



Someone once said that the major trouble with this country is 

 that the Indians had such a poor immigration policy. I suppose that 

 really is the cause of this conference. At the same time, it is true 

 that we are here, and the resources are here for us to use and I think 

 they were put here for man and not vice versa. And as our civiliza- 

 tion moves we have turned to using these resources, including the 

 rivers. I think they can be so used that they will contribute beauty 

 as well as economic strength. When I spoke earlier about citizens' 

 advisory councils I had this sort of thing in mind. 



We in TVA have learned as we have gone along we found most 

 recently that when a new reservoir is proposed, if you have planning 

 machinery in the area State planning commissions, county plan- 

 ning commissions, municipal planning commissions it is wise to get 

 them together, to plan deliberately and in advance how the reservoir 

 shoreline will be used so that, for example, areas which will be needed 

 and are suitable for waterfront industry are not preempted, sub- 

 divided for cottage sites or other uses whose requirements are less 

 exacting. 



This kind of planning with citizens' groups before a reservoir is 

 constructed is essential. It permits such groups to plan for construe- 



