62 CONFERENCE ON NATURAL BEAUTY 



Mr. SMITH. I don't think any of us has any idea of setting up 

 another line agency that you would have to deal with. This group, 

 whatever it is, if it is a recreation advisory committee, or whatever 

 it is, would be advisory an advisory body but we hope it would 

 listen to advice. We hope it will advise the Bureau of Public Roads 

 rather than you. It would get to the Bureau of Public Roads and 

 needle them into considering the beauty aspects of a project. 



Your relationship with the Bureau would remain the same unless 

 there is something within your own State that you have to key into 

 an over-all plan. But this has nothing to do with the Federal 

 bureaucracy. 



Mr. WARD. Let me make the observation; this is really perti- 

 nent. You are talking about something, as Mr. Gulick pointed out 

 you have to be specific in terms of administration. You have to 

 face up to what you need to do. You are going to make a serious 

 mistake in approaching this if you are going to set up another Fed- 

 eral agency to needle or advise without a clear-cut understanding 

 as to authority. 



When you are talking about muscle, I think those of us who 

 know something about government look to Congress to determine 

 policy, to pass laws. Congress ought to do this. If the Federal Gov- 

 ernment is going to spell out specifics in relationship to this whole 

 subject of national beauty, this is not a vague thing. Congress ought 

 to pass laws that are specific. 



Mr. SMITH. I am trying to say we don't have that authority or any 

 of that authority. 



DON HUMMEL. I would like to make a proposal which I think 

 ties together some of the objections that have been made by the 

 speakers here today. This is not a new proposal. It has been made 

 before. 



We have a National Security Council made up of the heads of 

 various agencies that are responsible for national security in the 

 international field. The National Advisory Council should not be 

 separate or just advisory. It should be made up of the various de- 

 partments that are involved with the development of the facilities in 

 the United States. We should have a National Advisory Council 

 chaired by the Vice President of the United States responsible to 

 the President, made up of the Secretary of the Interior, the 

 Secretary of Agriculture, and the head of the Housing Agency. And 



