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agency. I think that's wrong. I think you have got to get this 

 beauty concept bred into the agencies and a part of their policy. 



BENJAMIN LINSKY. I appreciate that air pollution has been ruled 

 out of the discussions here at this conference. But in the proposal 

 for a National Council, this problem of air pollution, I think be- 

 comes important especially when health considerations are not pres- 

 ent. It is not much good to have a lovely vista to see if you cannot 

 really see it because of manmade haze. 



Would your National Council as proposed incorporate the quality 

 factor of air pollution control? 



Mr. GODDARD. I would think it would. I note we did not say 

 to put the existing Recreation or Advisory Council up under the 

 President's jurisdiction, but in a new Council. We want to expand 

 it to include the types of endeavors that you are discussing. I would 

 say the answer is yes, we would want to include it. 



EDWIN MICHAELIAN. There are 3,043 counties in the United 

 States and the county government is one instrument that can be 

 used to coordinate the efforts of all local municipalities. In con- 

 sidering any program with respect to natural beauty, air pollution, 

 water pollution abatement, or whatever it may be, please don't over- 

 look the county. It is one of the coming tools that can be used to 

 marshal local opinion and get action. 



Mr. GODDARD. The county is included in our recommendations. 



A DELEGATE. I have a suggestion that I would like to make per- 

 haps in the area to be worked out between the States. 



I come from a metropolitan area. There is a great deal of natural 

 history to be looked at in city areas. The fact is that Americans 

 are lazy and haven't been out to Fire Island, where the great 

 holly forests are still available and can be seen. What I would 

 suggest is this : that there be a series of institutes of advanced study 

 such as you have at Princeton, but in the area of conservation and 

 natural resources and that one of these centers be set up as a great 

 clearinghouse, a center of public relations. The Hudson Valley 

 is a site that might be recommended. 



I would suggest that these centers or institutes get together from all 

 disciplines teams of scientists, economists, archeologists, historians, 

 botanists, biologists, and even artists and poets and put them to 

 work in a creative conservation area such as the Hudson River Val- 



