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vigorously about your emphasis on order. Order is the curse of 

 suburbia, specifically, the uniform setback. 



I wonder if you have any suggestions as to what can be done about 

 breaking the stranglehold of the uniform setback in suburban areas? 



Mr. ELIOT. Certainly I do not advocate order in the sense of uni- 

 form setbacks. 



What I am trying to say is that we want to know where we are 

 and who we are in our great cities. The continuation of Los 

 Angeles, mile after mile out into Orange County or San Bernardino 

 County, gives us no indication of where we are or who we are in 

 the Los Angeles area. 



It would be all to the good to have a great variety of setbacks, to 

 have places like Reston, Va., to have all kinds of designs for compact 

 clustered or other kinds of developments. I am not in favor of 

 standardization. 



PAUL N. CARLIN. My question is directed to Mr. Singletary. 

 Many of us are interested in both city and county parks and recrea- 

 tion programs. The primary problem which faces us is the provi- 

 sion of a hand labor force for many of the jobs that have to be done 

 on these types of facilities. 



I wanted a clarification. Did we understand you correctly that 

 where Job Corps facilities are located near a city or county park 

 or recreation program, that contractual arrangements can be entered 

 into between the local governments and the Job Corps? 



Mr. SINGLETARY. This is not the point I was making about the 

 Job Corps at all. Job Corps is essentially a training institution 

 where a boy decides what he wants to do, divides his time between 

 a basic educational program and, in the case of a conservation center, 

 a work program. 



In no case do we have in the Job Corps program a contractual 

 arrangement. The only arrangement we have at this moment is 

 where an activity is taken on as a specific voluntary project. 



The Neighborhood Youth Corps is not a program operated at 

 the Federal level. In a city, the Neighborhood Youth Corps might 

 be specifically detailed for this kind of work. So there is a dif- 

 ference in the two programs and the two objectives. 



As far as the work the boys do, we are primarily concerned in the 

 conservation of kids and not of parks and open spaces. There is a 

 different emphasis here, but we think that whatever the work pro- 



