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to do this. I might also indicate that the highway officials themselves 

 have recently initiated the so-called "after 1972 studies" and I think 

 they are aware, Mr. Secretary, of the need to study what is going 

 to happen after then, too. So we are all pretty much agreed on it. 



Senator FARR. One remark in passing. In every study made 

 by others, and in our own State, we found more people were engaged 

 in automobile driving than any other type of outdoor recreation 

 and this was in the year 1963. It goes up each and every year. 

 With the new leisure, and people wanting to spend more time out 

 driving their automobiles, they certainly ought to be able to drive on 

 roads that are pleasing and roads designed for recreation. 



The Federal interstate system was designed primarily as a fast 

 highway system to move great and vast volumes of people and goods 

 across the country. For the people who want to have recreation we 

 have got to have greater emphasis on the scenic highways and park- 

 ways after 1972, when we complete the Federal interstate highway 

 system. A good portion of that money could be diverted to the very 

 use Secretary Udall suggested. 



Mr. HARTZOG. One thing, Mr. Chairman. I want to emphasize 

 the point which I think was implicit in what Secretary Udall said 

 and also what Mr. Lynch was referring to, and that is, real oppor- 

 tunity to develop scenic roads now, particularly in urban areas in 

 connection with the interstate highway system. The part of the 

 interstate highway system that to a large extent has not been 

 built is in the urban areas. If this is allowed to become just a sterile 

 addition, scenic roads and parkways are not going to be able to do 

 very much to uplift it in the years to come. I think the real oppor- 

 tunity is to apply some of these principles and concepts to this inter- 

 state system that is now coming into these urban areas. The routes 

 are now being selected and certainly the money is available to build 

 a scenic interstate system in the urban environment. This is one of 

 the things that ought to be highlighted in any observations on this 

 subject. 



Mrs. DOROTHY MOORE. I would like to ask whether any thought 

 has been given to the fact that some of these other uses may not be 

 appropriately designed in the same corridor as an automobile high- 

 way and a scenic highway, in particular, walking trails. Several 

 people have stressed the fact that the ideal scenic highway should 

 incorporate bridle paths, walking trails, and so on. I wonder if these 



