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should not be kept in more remote locations. I am sure Secretary 

 Udall would see the logic of this, that they should be in areas much 

 more remote, much more natural. In fact, the scenic highways 

 should be kept well away from such established trails as the Ap- 

 palachian Trail, for instance. Yet I have seen proposals for placing 

 the automobile highway very, very close to an established hiking 

 and camping trail. 



Senator FARR. That's a good question for Dr. Levin and this 



committee to take into consideration. 



Mrs. MILTON ROEDEL. We are greatly concerned in the urban 

 areas going up the eastern seaboard, that we will lose our scenic val- 

 leys. We don't have redwoods, but we do have beautiful stream val- 

 leys. We can foresee that the scenic highways are going to head right 

 in to the last precious open green spaces that we have. We think it 

 might be possible to work this out if we felt we had a voice in setting 

 up the various criteria at the local level. 



We would be interested in working with the highway people. We 

 feel that our State planning agencies, county and city, ought to be 

 involved. We would like to see this almost mandatory in order to 

 use the Federal funds for this kind of program. 



Mrs. PEARL CHASE. I have been waiting for mention of several 

 things which I think pertain to both urban and rural roads, scenic 

 or general, and that is roadside rests. Roadside services, service sta- 

 tions, both urban and rural what about the bicycle paths that serve 

 the universities, the schools, and other agencies which require pedaled 

 access? I think there are so many different laws, so many different 

 types of roads, and distances between places, that no standard can 

 probably be suggested that is universal. We take these matters up in 

 connection with scenic highways and roads because they certainly are 

 part of the total picture, particularly the service station. 



Dr. KENNETH HUNT. We have acknowledged that highway rights- 

 of-way so often are bound by costs. I would like to suggest that we 

 look into legislation, making a very genuine set of criteria for pricing 

 natural areas, whether they be rural or urban. One criterion would 

 be density of population surrounding the area, which would help 

 a great deal in the raising of the value of urban parks. 



Another criterion might be the forest type. The National Shade 

 Tree Conference has a set of scales of worth of trees. I wonder what 

 that would figure out on redwoods. Of scientific significance are 



