THE UNDERGROUND INSTALLATION OF UTILITIES 383 



which is used in the United Kingdom but not here) , they would have 

 an additional cost equal to the total amount appropriated annually 

 by Parliament for all historic sites in England and Wales. 



So I think how much you underground depends on how you 

 manage your total resources in meeting all of your problems. If 

 this is it, there is some money you should be spending for under- 

 grounding, but it is so very expensive that if you are planning to 

 do a good deal of it, it raises a question as to whether it is the right 

 way for us to use national assets. 



Mr. CISLER. I think this points out the great need for better 

 understanding on the part of the public in general of some of the 

 great problems that are involved, particularly in the high-voltage 

 transmission. 



HAL CLARK. We are meeting this same problem all through my 

 area, including the Keystone project. When this project came up, 

 the engineers couldn't see where there could be any other thing done 

 except to continue pounding the stakes down and getting the land 

 prepared for a plant on Hendrix Island on the Delaware River. It 

 seemed they had a feeling that there wasn't any alternative, such as 

 the very fine views we are getting here today from this great panel. 



We have had a number of meetings, and the last one I attended 

 was at the Overseas Press Club in New York. We had representa- 

 tives from Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and 

 Delaware. Most of the people there are for private enterprise, like 

 I am, 100 percent, but they felt, as one man expressed it, that if we 

 can spend $40 to $100 billion to get to the moon, we certainly can 

 well afford to save the face of the land that produces the taxes to 

 put the man on the moon. 



Therefore, they thought there should be a crash program, and that 

 the Federal Government should be interested in it. As for Mr. 

 Temko, they very much backed the position that there should be 

 government control over where these lines shall go. 



Now we are facing imminent building of some of these projects 

 at the present time. In our county of Bucks County, we have a very 

 fine planning commission, and we are meeting with the engineers 

 of the Keystone project, very fine people. We know they have a 

 problem. We know that we cannot stop the building up of elec- 

 tricity, because in the Delaware Basin alone we represent 1 percent 

 of the land of this country, but we have developed 17 percent of 



