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perhaps subsidize their disposal, either by providing these machines 

 that will scrap an automobile in a hurry, or by contributing a little 

 something, towards raising the price of scrap steel, perhaps from the 

 savings on the excise tax, much as the government does with agri- 

 cultural products. This would make it profitable to buy Cleveland's 

 scrap automobiles, scrap them, and save this great natural resource. 

 Someone is going to have to make it profitable to buy the scrap 

 automobiles. I think the logical person or company or firm or cor- 

 poration is the one which built the car initially. I do believe, Mr. 

 Abernethy, that you and your associates at Ford and Chrysler and 

 General Motors will have to take more responsibility for this scrap 

 program. You initially made these beautiful cars that we are so 

 proud of until they fall apart, which we then abandon on the streets. 



A DELEGATE. I expect we are all car owners here. I don't know 

 how many owners there are that have three cars, as I do. One is a 

 Rambler. Also, I am a stockholder of American Motors Co. As a 

 stockholder, I would like to say that I would be perfectly willing to 

 pay whatever share of the tax is necessary to do this job. 



LEONARD HALL. I drive about 40,000 to 50,000 miles each year, 

 mostly through rural parts of America. Today there is an area that, 

 as far as I know, hasn't been touched upon here, and that is the sev- 

 eral million auto carcasses that are permanently deposited on farms, 

 in the more or less marginal farming areas of the United States. Some 

 of these are used to try to stop erosion in creeks, a totally hopeless use 

 of an automobile body. Some of them just lie upside down in the 

 farmer's yard. Here is a tremendous bar to natural beauty, because 

 this covers all of Appalachia, the Ozarks highlands, much of the 

 Southern United States, and a great deal of the West. 



SAM RIKLIN. Do you know of any city that has helped eliminate 

 abandoned cars? In other words, has any city faced this legally 

 through its council? If so, I would like to hear about it, because, 

 on my return to San Antonio, Tex., I am meeting with the mayor 

 and we hope to give him an idea of an ordinance that can be passed 

 in San Antonio, if you can provide me with one. 



Mr. MARLEY. I would like to answer that, if you wish. There 

 is a gentleman in the back of the room, associated with our insti- 

 tute, Mr. Venlo Wolfson. Before you leave here, he will give you 

 a copy of two ordinances that are now in the New York State 



