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in education. We do intend to make a specific recommendation of 

 this kind. 



CHRISTOPHER TUNNARD. I teach beauty to social scientists and 

 find them very receptive. 



I don't want to make our task more difficult, but there is a 

 problem that has not yet come up in this session. In the words 

 of the old saw, one man's meat is another man's poison. When 

 the task force goes out on its tour of the country and holds seminars, 

 as Mr. Eiseley has suggested, it is going to find very different opin- 

 ions of what is beautiful and what is not. Citizens of Bronxville, 

 the upper income group, are probably going to have a very dif- 

 ferent idea of beauty than the deprived citizens of Bedford-Stuy- 

 vesant in Brooklyn. 



I have a suggestion and a question. The suggestion is that I 

 think this problem should be met head on. I think it may be fairly 

 easy to convince people that there should be natural beauty in the 

 environment of the schools. But when it comes to manmade beauty, 

 architecture, and the artificial environment, I think this is where 

 the problem will arise. I suggest that it be met head on by call- 

 ing the first session of the seminar, "Who Says It's Beautiful?" 

 and seeing what kind of a response arises. And the second is the 

 question : How does the panel respond to this problem? 



Mr. BRAND WEIN. Is there anyone who would wish to speak to 

 this question of what is beautiful? Mr. Keppel? 



Mr. KEPPEL. Frankly, no. I am a former Harvard dean and 

 I can assure you that I will pay the utmost attention to the rec- 

 ommendations and suggestions of a gentleman from Yale., who tries 

 to teach beauty to those students. 



Mr. EISELEY. It is interesting that the panel itself got into some 

 quite lengthy discussions on this subject of what is beauty. It is 

 something that one can find in many ways in the human heart 

 and there are, of course, many attitudes toward it. Naturally, 

 some will be more sophisticated than others. 



I commented a moment ago about the fact that, through a 

 series of circumstances, I found something in a sandpile which 

 was beautiful, and I am not a person who is going to lay down 

 any restrictions about where beauty is to be found. It can be 

 found everywhere. It can be found in old ruins. I have stood 

 on the sites of ancient cities and thought, as spring came back over 



