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coloring of butter. There is a market demand, a demand of the con- 

 sumer, which compels the producer to adapt himself and cater in that 

 particular, as the maker of fabrics has to do. 



So, as I said, in one case the matter of color is a question simply of 

 taste, without any change whatever in the mind of the consumer or in 

 the character of the product. 



Senator ALLEN. Governor, will you permit me to ask you a 

 question ? 



Mr. HOARD. Certainly. 



Senator ALLEN. Why does the prudent farmer, ordinarily in June, 

 endeavor to put down enough butter to carry him through the winter 

 for his own use? 



Mr. HOARD. Senator, that is not done at the present time to any 

 appreciable extent. 



Senator ALLEN. It has been done ever since I was a boy. 



Mr. HOARD. It may have been done when you were a boy and when 

 I was a boy. As to that, you are right, but at the present time the 

 whole system of butter making is changed. Not one man puts down 

 butter in June for the next winter, where 10,000 did it forty years 

 ago. This wonderful change has come through the organization of 

 creameries, where now a very large proportion of the best butter is 

 made. 



That is the only thing I have to submit at the present time. I do 

 not think it is fair to take the time of these gentlemen who 'are desir- 

 ous of being heard, and what I may have to say I hope to have an 

 opportunity, if granted, to submit at a subsequent meeting of the 

 committee. I thank you, gentlemen, for your kind attention. 



OPPONENTS OF THE BILL. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. 1 should like to ascertain, if possible, the 

 number of gentlemen here who desire to be heard on the other side, 

 and about the length of time they would want to consume. 



Mr. SCHELL. Mr. Chairman, I represent the Ohio Butterine Fac- 

 tory, of Cincinnati. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Are you the only one here in the interest 

 of that institution ? 



Mr. SCHELL. I am the only one here in the interest of that institu- 

 tion, and that institution came into existence the same day that the 

 Grout bill passed the House. We certainly have not had any chance 

 to be heard. But I do not want to take the time of this committee at 

 all myself if some one representing identical interests can cover the 

 ground better than I can. However, I want time to unite our forces, 

 to get together and select one man to present our side of the question. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. I do not believe that it is the desire of the 

 committee to traverse the ground that has been covered by the hear- 

 ings in the House. 



Mr. SCHELL. I understand that. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. If possible it is desired to avoid doing that, 

 and I simply desire to ascertain how many gentlemen are here now 

 who wish to be heard in opposition to the bill and how much time they 

 desire to take. We have heard from one gentleman who wishes to be 

 heard on the other side. 



Mr. GARDNER. 1 represent the Oakdale Manufacturing Company, of 



