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Providence, R. I., which desires to be heard. I shall endeavor to be 

 as brief as I possibly can, but owing to lack of time for preparation I 

 can not be as brief to-day as I could be after the holidays. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Are there any other gentlemen here who 

 wish to be heard? 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. I wish to be heard, representing the Vermont 

 Manufacturing Company, of Providence, R. I. , and I assure you if I 

 do speak I will not go over the ground, or at least while I may go over 

 the ground I will not present the same facts or perhaps the same argu- 

 ments that were used in the House. I did not appear before the 

 House committee. I did not have any opportunity to do so. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Are you ready to go on now? 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. I am not ready to go on this morning, but Mr. 

 Gardner is, I understand, ready to speak this morning if it is the 

 desire that he shall proceed at this time, though he has not had that 

 opportunity for preparation that he wished. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. We have heard from three gentlemen who 

 are present and who desire to be heard. Are there others? 



Senator ALLEN. Does not the gentleman sitting by you, Mr. Gardner, 

 desire to be heard ? 



Mr. MATHEWSON. No, sir; Mr. Gardner will represent me. 



Mr. SCHELL. I wish to add that I have not had a chance to go over 

 what was presented to the House, and I do not know what is before 

 the committee. I will put in every minute of my time in preparation. 



Senator BATE. You are the only one representing your interest? 



Mr. SCHELL. I am the only one representing it on this side. 



Senator BATE. We can probably hear you now. 



Mr. SCHELL. If the same arguments that I would advance appear in 

 the hearing in the House I would have nothing to say. All I want is 

 time to prepare. 



Senator ALLEN. I think we ought to have the hearing and be pre- 

 pared to report the bill promptly upon the meeting of Congress after 

 the holidays. 



Senator BATE. I do not think we can do that. Telegrams are com- 

 ing here from gentlemen who want to be heard after the holidays. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. We shall have to decline to sit here and 

 listen to arguments the balance of the session. Mr. Springer will be 

 heard now. 



Mr. SPRINGER. I yesterday received a telegram from the president 

 of the National Live Stock Association of the United States, asking me 

 to appear before this committee in behalf of the live-stock interests of 

 the whole country to oppose the passage of the bill. I received this 

 notice only yesterday afternoon and it was received by telegram, and 

 I will receive a written communication probably by to-morrow morn- 

 ing, giving some of the views and interests that that association desires 

 to have presented to this committee. 



I will state that I am not aware that that association appeared in any 

 capacity before the House committee. I have not had a chance to 

 examine all its hearings yet, but I will do so at once and, if I find that 

 they have presented their views there in any way I will not desire to 

 go over that ground again. I do not think they have been heard. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. You represent a live-stock association ? 



Mr. SPRINGER. All the live-stock associations. 



Senator FOSTER. The National Live Stock Association ? 



