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to me, and if I am not able to back it up by facts and figures, I am 

 willing to apologize and withdraw my remarks. Up to the present 

 time I am not. 



The CHAIRMAN. I was in the Isle of Jersey and in Denmark a few 

 years ago, and I noticed that the Jersey cattle have mostly gone to 

 Denmark. 



Mr. LESTKADE. That is very true in one sense. 



The CHAIRMAN. The Jersey farms seem to have sold all of their 

 best cattle to Denmark. 



Senator MONEY. Mr. Chairman, it seem to me we ought to have 

 some rule about the time these gentlemen are to be allowed to speak. 

 If their time is to be limited, I think interruptions are unfair. 



Senator HEITFELD. It will perhaps take Mr. Lestrade some time to 

 rearrange his notes. It is now 5 minute^ to 12, and we might as well 

 take at recess at this time. 



The CHAIRMAN. Can you tell us anything about how much more 

 time you want for the oleomargarine people? 



Mr. POTTER. There are a number of gentlemen who want to be 

 heard to-morrow, and several cotton-seed oil representatives will be 

 here Sunday. They would also like to be heard. 



The CHAIRMAN. Yes; I promised to hear them Monday. You will 

 want all the time to-day and to-morrow, will you? 



Mr. POTTER. Yes, sir; and perhaps Monday and Tuesday. 



The CHAIRMAN. Leaving out the cotton-seed oil people, I have 

 promised Senator Penrose that some butter friends of his might be 

 heard to-morrow for a little time, but I will try and not let it inter- 

 fere with you very much. 



Mr. POTTER. We have some gentlemen here who are anxious to be 

 heard on lines that have not been'taken up before. 



Senator HANSBROUGH. Who, in behalf of the Grout bill, desire yet 

 to be heard ? Mr. Knight, you can tell us. 



Mr. KNIGHT. Mr. Adams, I think, can give you the information. 

 He and Governor Hoard, I think, arranged that this morning. 



The CHAIRMAN. That had better be postponed just as far as possi- 

 ble, without too great inconvenience, until the oleomargarine people 

 have finished. 



Senator HANSBROUGH. 1 am trying, Mr. Chairman, to get at the 

 length of time we are to be employed here, because there are members 

 of this committee who have other things to do. 



Mr. ADAMS. 1 can state, Mr. Chairman, with your permission, that 

 so far as the friends of the Grout bill are concerned, I think if all our 

 representatives were here we could close our part of this testimon}^ 

 in three hours. Governor Hoard and myself will remain here during 

 this week, 



The CHAIRMAN. We will take a recess now until half past 2 o'clock. 



The committee, at 11.45 a. m., took a recess until 2.30 o'clock p. m. 



At the expiration of the recess the committee resumed its session. 



Present: Senators Hansbrough (acting chairman), Foster, and Heit- 

 feld. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. You may proceed, Mr. Lestrade. How 

 much further time do you desire ? 



Mr. LESTRADE. About half an hour, I should think. 



