1 80 OLEOMARGARINE. 



The butter that I am making to-day will bring from 1 to 2 and 2 

 cents more a pound than the best fancy extra butter that you can send 

 out of Chicago, and there is butter which is selling to-day, as you dairy- 

 men know, if there are any of you here, as high as 40 and 50 cents a 

 pound. Do you think that it is merely being sold on the brand ? It is 

 not. It is being sold on the exquisite flavor and the perfection of being 

 made as it should be made. That is not to say that we are all going 

 to get 40 and 50 cents a pound, but I do mean to say that for a long 

 time to come, if you make good butter, you are going to get a good 

 price. I said to these gentlemen from Chicago representing this asso- 

 ciation: "You remind me a great deal of the walking delegates of the 

 Knights of Labor. You are looking around for something to do and 

 to earn your salaries, and consequently you are taking up this oleo- 

 margarine question, which in the past has been, and, I think, even 

 to-day is, a good friend of butter, and you are agitating it and all that 

 sort of thing to endeavor to show the dairy interests that you are per- 

 forming functions and doing your work as it should be done; whereas, 

 if you would let the thing alone and spend your time in educating the 

 farmers how to make good creamery butter, you would be doing a 

 noble work and a grand work, and a work that every farmer and every 

 dairyman through this country would bless you for in the end." 



Mr. FLANDERS. Mr. Chairman, may I ask the gentleman a question? 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. 



Mr. FLANDERS. Do you not know, you being from New York, that 

 it is a part of the work of the department of agriculture of the State 

 of New York to do just exactly what you have suggested, and do you 

 not know that 1!hey keep five or six men continually employed in this 

 division work? 



Mr. LESTRADE. Yes. 



Mr. FLANDERS. And that department spends $20,000 a year in farm- 

 ers' institutions throughout the State in that work ? 



Mr. LESTRADE. Yes, sir; but the work is not being done fast enough. 

 It is going too slow. 



Mr. HOARD. Do you know that the men representing the dairy 

 interests here are on a salary ? 



Mr. LESTRADE. No. 1 know some of them are. 



Mr. HOARD. Who among them are on a salary ? 



Mr. LESTRADE. I do not suppose every one of them is doing it with- 

 out compensation. 



Mr. HOARD. I want to say to you, as president of the National Dairy 

 Union, that I never have drawn a penny even for my expenses, and 1 

 have paid out over $1,100 in the prosecution of this fight. 



Mr. LESTRADE. Well, my remarks were made-to two or three of these 

 gentlemen, and I said if they would only spend their time in the noble 

 work of educating the farmer, and spend on that the money that is 

 being spent in fighting oleomargarine, they would be doing a far nobler 

 and grander work. 



Mr. HURD. I have been engaged in dairy educational work for thirty 

 years and I have never heard of you before. 



Mr. LESTRADE. I am glad to make your acquaintance. 



Mr. KNIGHT. I would like to ask a question, if the gentleman will 

 allow me. 



Mr. LESTRADE. Certainly. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. The gentleman has been plied with a good 



