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to a hotel or a restaurant, or into a private house, these supposed safe 

 guards, or wrappers, or whatever they may be, which are used to 

 identify it as oleomargarine, are taken off, and the consumer does not 

 know anything about it; and he is imposed on. The same kind of 

 imposition goes all the way through, and all the methods, so far as we 

 have been able to discover, of the manfacturers and dealers of oleo- 

 margarine have been those of systems of deceit to put off on the 

 people articles of food which they did not know they were using. 



Now, 1 do not know that I can say anything further about this mat- 

 ter. The only point is that we are here in the butter interest dairy- 

 men, dealers, and consumers to state our belief in the efficacy of this 

 Grout bill. We want it. We think it is a remedy for all these ills in 

 the butter trade, and that it will compel legitimate competition. The 

 butter dealers do not want to destroy this product. They have no idea 

 of doing that. If people want oleomargarine, they are entitled to 

 have it. But, as 1 understand it, statistics show that 90 per cent of 

 this stuff goes into consumption as butter, and that very fact ought to 

 stamp it as a fraud. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. What statistics do you refer to? 



Mr. DAVIS. I have not them in my possession; but I have heard the 

 statements made and the facts given, and they have not been contested 

 at all. 



Mr. KAUFFMAN. We will give them to you. 



Mr. DAVIS. That is all I have to say. 



Mr. KAUFFMAN. Now, Mr. Chairman, there is only one more gen- 

 tleman who will speak to you Mr. Jamison, who is a very large 

 wholesale dealer in Philadelphia. 



STATEMENT OF SAMUEL JAMISON, ESQ., WHOLESALE BUTTER 

 DEALER, PHILADELPHIA, PA. 



Mr. JAMISON. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, we speak in favor of 

 the Grout bill for the reason that we have tried, by experience, all the 

 previous legislation, and we are still spending our money to have the 

 laws enforced. I suppose it has been ten years since the butter trade 

 of Philadelphia has made an effort to control the sale of oleomargarine 

 according to the laws which were passed by the United States, to 

 enfore the national law, or our own State law. We find great diffi- 

 culty in enforcing the laws as individuals. We have probably spent 

 in the neighborhood of $50,000 of our own money to have oleomar- 

 garine sold according to the laws of Pennsylvania. We have been com- 

 pelled, from year to year, to have additional legislation passed, making 

 it harder and harder for oleomargarine to be sold as butter. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. Will the gentleman permit a question ? 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Allow the gentleman to proceed, please. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. I will, unless he desires to be interrupted. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. You can ask him questions at the end of his 

 remarks, unless he desires to be interrupted now. 



Mr. JAMISON. It does not make any difference. 



Mr. TILLINGHAST. I will ask if, during that period, you have not had 

 in Pennsylvania a prohibitive law, absolutely prohibiting the sale of all 

 oleomargarine? 



Mr. JAMISON. We had a prohibitive law for some time, and we found 



