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commission men in Cincinnati, and from there to Chicago, where it is 

 sold to the process butter factories. 



Now, as to the method of renovating butter 



Senator DOLLIVER. One moment. You have just spoken of having 

 butter in oleomargarine. What class of butter do they purchase to 

 mix with the oils that go to make oleomargarine? 



Mr. SCHELL. I can only state for certain factories. There are other 

 gentlemen here who can speak for their own. In the factories of which 

 I know, so far as butter has been used, it has been the very best not 

 fancy butter, perhaps, but the best creamery butter. They insist 

 that they must have the best butter, as well as the best of the other 

 products, or the result is a failure. But the factories I represent 

 are now using, not butter, but milk and cream. And after a while I 

 will submit to you one of the stamps required by the Government, 

 which contains approximately the materials which enter into the 

 product. 



Senator FOSTER. Do all of these first-class oleomargarine manu- 

 facturers use the same formula? 



Mr. SCHELL. Not exactly. I think I am safe in saying that. If they 

 did, they would Lave the same class of product, while it is a well-recog- 

 nized fact that some of them can sell a great deal more goods than the 

 others. And they sell them on their merits, and in competition, not 

 with butter of any class or description, but in competition with the 

 product of other factories. 



Coming back to the point I was about to make as regards the man- 

 ufacture of process butter, the question has been raised here, and it was 

 stated by someone that it was not necessary to use sulphuric acid in 

 clarifying and washing this packing stock during the process of making 

 it up into resurrection butter. I want to say that sulphuric acid is 

 used. I want to corroborate the statement which was made at that 

 time and contradicted, and I know it. I am not betraying any profes- 

 sional secrets (if I do not go too much into details), but I was and am 

 attorney for people who were in that business and they did use sul- 

 phuric acid to help in washing and clarifying and deodorizing packing 

 stock that went into process butter. 



Senator MONEY. That is injurious to health, is it not? 



Mr. SCHELL. It is, indeed; any particle of it. 



Mr. ADAMS. May I ask the gentleman a question? 



Mr. SCHELL. Yes; all right. 



Mr. ADAMS. It is simply this : Are you willing to have questions 

 asked ? 



Mr. SCHELL. When I finish, if the committee say that there is time 

 for it, I am willing. I would like to ask Mr. Adams a question, though, 

 and 1 am willing to answer a question for him in turn. 



Mr. ADAMS. I do not wish to insist upon it. I just wish the gentle- 

 man would exercise his own will in the matter. I don't wish to urge it. 



Mr. SCHELL. Well, it is the time of the committee that is being used, 

 not my own. I am willing to stay here for a month, as far as I am 

 concerned; but if Mr. Ada"ms wishes, I will be glad if he will place him- 

 self on record now, that I may know how to use him later on, as to 

 whether or not he would consent to a bill as a substitute for the Grout 

 bill which would so hedge oleomargarine around with penalties and 

 conditions that it would be practically impossible to pass it oft' for 

 butter. 



Mr. ADAMS. I am very glad the gentleman has reiterated by asking 

 me a question; and I am perfectly willing to answer it. I would like 

 to say that I would be in favor of a law that 



