298 OLEOMARGARINE. 



I want to say further in regard to these stamps, and the fact that the 

 law regarding the sale of oleomargarine for butter is complied with in 

 the State of Ohio, that in all the trials with which I have ever had any- 

 thing to do there has never been a package of oleomargarine produced 

 in the justice's court that did not have the three stamps the stamp on 

 the wooden package, the stamp on the parchment, and the stamp on the 

 outside wrapper. It was always there. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Mr. Schell, I have to go to another com- 

 mittee; but before I go I will state that in a consultation with the 

 chairman of the committee it has been deemed advisable to extend the 

 hearing until and including Thursday, and that that will be final. 



Senator MONEY. Has there been any vote of the committee on that 

 arrangement? 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. There has been no vote of the committee. 



Senator MONEY. There will have to be before there is any determina- 

 tion of it. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Then we will be obliged to get the full 

 committee here. 



Senator MONEY. That is all right; but we can not cut these hearings 

 short when a lot of men have come here to be heard, and have not yet 

 had an opportunity to be heard. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. I \vill state, Senator, that last week the 

 chairman, who was presiding during the morning hearings, thought 

 that arrangements should be made so as to close the hearings on 

 to-morrow. That is the 10th, I believe. 



Senator MONEY. I understood what the chairman thought; but the 

 committee have taken no action. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. But he made a statement here to the effect 

 that that would be the situation here, and we have been proceeding 

 upon that hypothesis. 



Senator MONEY. I have not proceeded upon that hypothesis at all. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Just a moment. Others have come since 

 then to be heard; and Senator Proctor, who has just left the room, 

 stated to me that he thought we had better extend the hearings until 

 Thursday, including Thursday, allowing the butter people to close on 

 that day. Of course the committee can do as it pleases. 



Senator MONET. I want to say, as one member of the committee, that 

 I object to any closing of the debate at present; and I do not see any 

 particular reason why the butter people, having had all the time they 

 wanted here, should close the debate, either. So far as I can under- 

 stand, there is nothing to entitle them to the last day in court. In my 

 opinion they have not shown any case at all; and I shall insist that 

 the men who oppose this bill shall have an equal hearing to the very 

 last moment of the argument. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. Senator, you will pardon me if I make the 

 objection that I have been here at all the hearings, except part of the 

 time yesterday, and that I am quite safe in saying that the opponents 

 of this bill have occupied fully three-fourths of the time. 



Senator MONEY. That may be. Now, I will tell you what we will do. 

 We will hear the butter men first and let the other people close. 



The ACTING CHAIRMAN. But the butter men, I think, opened the 

 case here by making some statements ; and it was generally understood, 

 and has been understood all the way through, that they should close 

 the case. 



Senator MONEY. I have not had any such understanding as a member 

 of the committee. My understanding was that they were to have equal 



